Fallschirmjäger is very OP!

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2019, 17:20 PMBalanced_Gamer

Price increase agreed since it is an elite unit. 340 should be minimum for strong doctrinal units.

Timing I disagree since they dont come with 4 FG42s and they get easily defeated by 2CP Shock Troops. Falls should still be 2CP.

Increasing muni price is a no no since they already have to wait and tech which is already a big long downside.

OKW muni costs upgrades are always generally too expensive. I never get a chance really in getting upgrades for Volks except mid or late game. It is fine as it is the munitions price imo.

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2019, 17:23 PMStug life

well u could compare the 2 fg42 with 2 bren

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2019, 16:03 PMAlphrum

i just tested para's vs falls, with vet0 and max vet, bh green cover, paras win every time

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2019, 17:26 PMHon3ynuts

I agree on the following
1. They vet very quickly
2. They are not very expensive for their new performance

I do not agree
They are too strong to be in the game as they are. I think they are one of the best infantry units, but that is fine if their cost and vet speed appropriately reflects that.

Observations: Personally I build like 3 in my first game this patch and got them all vet 5. How many other factions build say 3 shock troops, rangers, commandos, ect in the first 12 minutes? Let's fix this first.

Suggestions
1. Increase vet requirements
2. Increase manpower cost
3. Possibly increase FG42 Munitions cost, but its a munitions heavy doctrine so its not easy to get the 60 anyways when you want planes smoke, Valiant assault ect.

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2019, 17:30 PMStug life

so 340 mp (20 less than airborne guards that come with infiltration, and para that can upgrade instantly)

and maybe increase price of the 2 fg42 to 80 mun ? (like 2 bren) or 70 as they come in bundle(most bundle upgrade are cheaper: shrecks,para lmg,3 dp guards, etc) ?

and a look to vet requirement

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2019, 17:15 PMNorthFireZ

They are still quite vunerable to vehicles I think just like every other elite infantry. (Didn't they used to have a faust?)

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2019, 17:30 PMStug life

so 340 mp (20 less than airborne guards that come with infiltration, and para that can upgrade instantly)

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2019, 17:33 PMStug life

i can't find any changes in their vet req tho in the pacth notes

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2019, 17:34 PMRaxzero

They still have their fausts so no, they aren't vulnerable against vehicles like Rangers, Shocks, Obers and other anti-infantry focused elites.



Airborne Guards is 380MP, not 360.

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2019, 17:34 PMRaxzero

They still have their fausts so no, they aren't vulnerable against vehicles like Rangers, Shocks, Obers and other anti-infantry focused elites.

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2019, 17:39 PMblvckdream

Just because they have a Faust doesn't mean they aren't vulnerable to vehicles and artillery. The chance to randomly OHK a 4 man squad is higher than OHK a 5 or 6 man squad.

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2019, 09:53 AMT.R. Stormjäger

I have a question. So Falls are supposed to be this fragile ambush unit that has a grenade, camo, first strike bonus and can upgrade to lmgs. Why then are they able to fire their lmg on the move, which turns them from a great ambush unit into a broken A-move unit? Also was this unit actually tested before the patch?

Jump back to quoted post12 Sep 2019, 10:25 AMKatitof

Guards confirmed to be non elites.