USF Sherman 76 mm - Who needs it?

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2019, 17:21 PMMazianni

Why would you build a unit and then not use any of the abilities? Like, it may be doable with a Panzer IV that constantly uses an AI/AT round, but a M4 Sherman without smoke or HE rounds is basically pointless. The abilities are integral to the unit. The utility factor.


And the 76MM doesnt need any messing with or replacement upgrades to the Sherman. I think it's fine as is, and honestly looking at the stats I wouldnt be surprised if it gets a nerf to its AP ROF, which is better than any other medium tank.

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2019, 17:08 PMMazianni

Lord knows pressing the stop button is hard. 6 second freeze of switching rounds or the entire vehicle stopping to pop a delayed smoke has got nothing on the amount of timing and technical skill required to use Blitz or Panzer Tactician lmao

And this thread is pretty pointless now that I basically proved the 76mm is better than the M4A3E8 in basically every situation, E8 having the longest reload time of any medium tank and inferior accuracy and penetration to the 76MM HVAP.

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2019, 16:57 PMStug life

Dis, saying that USF tanks requires more micro is actually false, better moving accuracy and scatter means u don’t need to stop and shoot like all other tanks

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2019, 20:07 PMVipper

The easy8 has more armor and can take an extra hit.

HVAP round also have AOE of 0.25 while the Easy has 2.

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2019, 20:12 PMMazianni

If you're using HVAP against a target where AOE is more useful than penetration, you've made a mistake, and the HVAP round has much better penetration and a faster ROF than the M4A3E8's main gun.

Taking an extra hit with the extra 80hp is nice, but the Easy 8 is also slower and more expensive than the 76mm Sherman.

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2019, 20:20 PMVipper

Reload time for for HVAP is 6.1 vs 6-6.6 average 6.3 the difference is minimal.

One has to switch munition the other does not...

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2019, 20:28 PMMazianni

One round has better stats (accuracy, penetration, ROF), one round does not...

Do you believe the fact that an Easy 8 does not have to switch rounds makes it more effective versus armor than the 76mm? Versus something like a Panther?

I ask because the 76mm Sherman would outdps the Easy Eight versus a Panzer IV as a given, a scenario where the Easy Eight would have to rely on it's superior durability, primarily it's 55 extra armor, a stat which is not nearly as useful versus anything heavier than one.

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2019, 20:28 PMMazianni

Re the edit concerning the PzIV J;

This vehicle has better armor and better AI than either tank.

Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2019, 20:28 PMMazianni

One round has better stats (accuracy, penetration, ROF), one round does not...

Do you believe the fact that an Easy 8 does not have to switch rounds makes it more effective versus armor than the 76mm? Versus something like a Panther?

I ask because the 76mm Sherman would outdps the Easy Eight versus a Panzer IV as a given, a scenario where the Easy Eight would have to rely on it's superior durability, primarily it's 55 extra armor, a stat which is not nearly as useful versus anything heavier than one.


Re the edit concerning the PzIV J;

This vehicle has better armor and better AI than either tank.