Soviet September patch discussion

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 17:40 PMinsaneHoshi

For one, if your hit with a mortar, odds are another model wont be killed for the loop to come into play.

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 17:40 PMinsaneHoshi

For two, when a vikers or a 42 retreating at one man, them not having a deathloop isnt an issue, you do know why right?

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 17:57 PMcochosgo

Its because guards have 4 weapons slots being used: 2 ptrs and 2 dps

The more weapon slots used, the higher the chance to drop a weapon upgrade. That's why you rarely see grens or obers drop a lmg while guards are walking pinatas

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 19:03 PMSander93

Would you guys please be so kind to take the Maxim deathloop discussion to another thread? This thread is meant for feedback on the patch changes, and 9 pages of bickering about MGs is not helping us notice important feedback and suggestions at all.

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 17:57 PMcochosgo

Its because guards have 4 weapons slots being used: 2 ptrs and 2 dps

The more weapon slots used, the higher the chance to drop a weapon upgrade. That's why you rarely see grens or obers drop a lmg while guards are walking pinatas

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 19:19 PMJilet

Actually we were talking about airborne guards...

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 19:55 PMCrecer13

In which there is nothing airborne.

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 20:19 PMJilet

Buildingborne.

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 20:00 PMAcidfreak

Okay i madr some videos of air guards vs falls on sandbag cover in medium to long range. Pardon the quality. Laptop is potato. Also its my first time uploading vids on YouTube. I will soon provide the link. They are uploading

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 21:06 PMAcidfreak

complete playlist link:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHp03z6K6cRdIbxT6I9dIXIrhrcWbnAKy

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 21:48 PMKirrik

Airborne Guards having normal weapon drop chance is another balance team fail, PTRS/DP Guards have reduced weapon drop precicely because they were dropping their weapons left and right, which led to drop % reduction.
People pointed out that DP drop rate needs to go down to same level as vanilla Guards but they obviously didnt care to fix it (As if DP upgrade wasnt bad enough without them giving DP's to every axis infantry they encounter)

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 21:54 PMBalanced_Gamer

Falls were never good. "Jack of all trades, masters of none" kind of unit.

Was not even good in one thing. Has much utility, that is it.

Their accuracy is rather poor according to stats and they cost too much like around 360-380 manpower.

Terrible investment.

Obers, Jager Lights and even Volks have clearly been, the proper performing units.

Falls, just bottom on the list.
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Back to Soviet topic.


I think the doctrinal Airborne guards should still get the parachute drop since it has that indicator.

It is supposed to be an airborne unit, right?

Jump back to quoted post17 Aug 2019, 00:33 AMSelvy289

Been testing out the IS-2. Fragmentation does nothing to garrison units, not sure if intended.

More importantly, Im abit worried that the changes will push the kv2 back into obscurity. While the kv2 has massive aeo, the new is-2 does enough damage allowing the mg to pick infantry off like flies which is a problem because the kv2 is really only good against infantry.

The kv2 only real advantage is range (as it improves with vet 2).

Jump back to quoted post17 Aug 2019, 00:52 AMHon3ynuts

IS2 vet is similar to the Kv-2 but it seems to be better overall. I don't really feel the tanks perform equally at the moment especially considering the fuel cost is equal. You see Is2 all the time and the Kv2 is not nearly as popular.

KV2 Vet 2
+50% weapon rotation speed, +25% direct fire range, +14.3% indirect fire

IS2 Vet 2

+50% weapon rotation speed, +25% range, +20% accuracy

Kv2 Vet 3
+20% weapon rotation speed, +20% rotation speed, +20% speed, +20% ac/de-celeration, +180 hp

Is2
-30% reload, +20% rotation speed, +20% speed, +20% ac/de-celeration