USA September patch discussion

Jump back to quoted post31 Aug 2019, 13:50 PMSupport Sapper

Those words perfectly fit the panther, lol. Allies cant reliably kill it so OP :v

Jump back to quoted post31 Aug 2019, 14:08 PMthedarkarmadillo

If creeping rak death is being removed we could experiment with lowering the Scott's health to 320 so that it's actually possible to catch it out of position and kill it.

Jump back to quoted post31 Aug 2019, 16:09 PMmrgame2

Unless panther have 65 range and 65 sight, so it is not the same thing.

Jump back to quoted post31 Aug 2019, 16:44 PMmrgame2

why usf cant reliably kill panther? Jacksons?
Scott can inflict damage from safe distance, panther cant, thats what im saying. It is incomparable here.

Jump back to quoted post31 Aug 2019, 14:08 PMthedarkarmadillo

If creeping rak death is being removed we could experiment with lowering the Scott's health to 320 so that it's actually possible to catch it out of position and kill it.

Jump back to quoted post31 Aug 2019, 19:04 PMLoopDloop

Why not just get rid of the smoke instead? It's a sort of expensive vehicle that needs to be close-ish to the frontlines in order to work, and successful dives should be rewarded, but IMO removing smoke is the best way to do that, as it makes diving really hard. Removing smoke instead of nerfing health would make it so the scott doesn't die to a stiff breeze, but still gets punished when it gets caught out of position.

Jump back to quoted post31 Aug 2019, 19:04 PMLoopDloop

Why not just get rid of the smoke instead? It's a sort of expensive vehicle that needs to be close-ish to the frontlines in order to work, and successful dives should be rewarded, but IMO removing smoke is the best way to do that, as it makes diving really hard. Removing smoke instead of nerfing health would make it so the scott doesn't die to a stiff breeze, but still gets punished when it gets caught out of position.

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2019, 12:52 PMLago

Move the Vet 1 ninja smoke from the Scott to the Stuart.

The Scott can now be dived.
The Stuart can now actually use its utility abilities without getting blown up.

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2019, 15:11 PMDangerous-Cloth

That would require it's other abilities to be looked at, as its crit ability is quite powerful.

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2019, 17:45 PMLago

It's powerful in theory.

In practice, it's so janky and slow that it's a good way to get rid of an unwanted Stuart.

Stuarts are all but useless against anything larger than a Puma because they only do 80 damage. The game's description text and tooltips hints the original vision for them was to be support tanks that did pretty minimal damage but had powerful utility abilities they could use on larger units.

With the Scott's smoke, they could actually do that.

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2019, 18:01 PMDangerous-Cloth

Right. They can't stun heavy tanks then? They can't stay relavent until late game by this crit ability whilst being a good flanker and harassing infantry? They can't decrew and reduce pop cap whilst hopping back in and supporting the other vehicles again?

Jump back to quoted post1 Sep 2019, 18:14 PMLago

They can, much like a T-70 can kill a King Tiger.

Like I said, strong in theory. In practice, dead Stuart.

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2019, 18:46 PMRoastinGhost

Could the greyhound be moved sooner as well?
2/4 sidetech requirement like major, 4cp?

Not sure if that's actually a good idea, just wanted to bring it up since it now has the cp reqs of a stug.

Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2019, 20:03 PMKatitof

Not sure its such a great idea, its pretty great in terms of performance, but then again, all the counters are already present at 4CP.