September Balance Patch preview [SPBP] - general discussion

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 19:19 PMOsinyagov

Does it mean, that they:
1. Have +50% accuracy bonus from stealth with vet 5?
2. Additional +25% accuracy from stealth on the start?
3. Vet 5 bonus now not 50%, but 70%?
And in total - +95%?

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 19:23 PMSander93

It means they should now have:
+25% First Strike bonus at vet 0, and 1.25 x 1.2 = 1.5 or +50% First Strike bonus at vet 5.


The notes should say that vet 5 +50% was changed to +20% to be less confusing, thanks for calling it out, we'll change it.

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 18:46 PMSander93

SEPTEMBER 2019 PATCH PREVIEW - Version 1.2 Changes
August 22nd 2019

Grenadiers - Experimental Change
We think Grenadiers are in a good spot in terms of their combat performance, but with only 4 models, they get wiped too easily once heavy indirect fire and big guns start roaming the battlefield. We’d like to trial a change that replaces their veterancy 3 Received Accuracy with a Damage Reduction modifier. This should help Grenadiers survive explosions damage in the late game, without really having an impact on their durability versus small arms fire.
- Veterancy 3 -23% Received Accuracy replaced by -20% damage reduction

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 19:36 PMMazianni

Damage reduction for Grens

Are you fucking kidding me? Are grenades just supposed to be fucking worthless versus grens now?

Jesus Christ, reduce their reinforcememt time and cost at vet 3 if you want, but this damage reduction nonsense, especially after we literally just got done removing it from Rangers, and right after all the indirect fire nerfs to USF and Soviets.

Why would anyone think this is a good idea? I mean?

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 19:38 PMJilet

Because they are a 4man core infantry that blows up with a single mortar in EVERY. SINGLE. GAME.

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 19:39 PMMazianni

A SINGLE MORTAR
CAN
NOT
KILL
A
SQUAD
MOVE YOUR FUCKING UNITS

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 19:42 PMJilet

Well 120mm mortar may want to have words with you. Just got my grens reduced to 1hp by the mortar while vaulting the fence. Guess what ? They got sniped one by one on the retreat. Was painful to watch...

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 19:45 PMMazianni

A lovely ancedote where the rng mortar round managed to land a direct hit and DID NOT KILL THE SQUAD.

And it's all on you if your retreat path isn't clear.

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 19:44 PMStug life

it's not only mortar, tank shells too, nobody like random Sherman with HEAT shell one shooting gren left and right, or pack howy

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 19:49 PMMazianni

Pack howi also can't oneshot.
Medium tanks are good versus infantry, shock and fucking horror man. Should nerf that to hell ASAP so that they can be even more unappealing to build.

Christ, why dont we just remove all aoe weapons from the game so we can just a-move fucking blobs amd team weapons around all day.

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 19:49 PMJilet

Sure thing. But your biased eyes are just forgetting the grens MUST BE STATIONARY TO FIRE THE LMG OTHERWISE THEY ARE USELESS which eleminates the RNG factor of mortar shells thus they WILL be hit exclusively more than other infantry by the mortars.

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 19:51 PMStug life

ever tried heat barrage ?

u know, they will be same as volks in term of durability vs medium, or should ost always be the child in the corner abused by the others ?

btw the bonus is only at vet 3

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 19:56 PMMazianni

If you are so undynamic that you have -after letting a post-nerf pack howitzer reach veterancy 2- utterly refused to adapt to the circumstances of the game and managed to get an entire squad OHKO'd by an area barrage with the worst scatter of any other ability on that unit, it is entirely on you.

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 20:00 PMStug life

if u let the enemy reach green vet 3 then is ur problem right ?

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 20:02 PMMazianni

Want to hazard a bet which veterancy comes sooner and which veterancy is more useful?

I mean, if this change was completely focused on countering this single barrage ability so braindead ostheer players dont get random squad wipes from it, you'd think theyd just nerf the fucking ability.

Jump back to quoted post22 Aug 2019, 20:05 PMStug life

let's ask the mods, to me it seem they saw the pack too strong

Pershing
- Far AOE damage from 0.2 to 0.225
- Mid AOE distance from 0.35 to 0.4
- HVAP cost from 90 to 60.