Why USF so bad in tournaments?

Jump back to quoted post9 Aug 2019, 17:42 PMWingZero

USF has a huge problem late game with MP drain. When Panzerwerfer or Stuka comes into play the 280MP rifle are shut down. You can build cheap RE as replacements for weapon pick ups and cap points but they are so lame late game than why even bother. USF generally more micro intensive and almost all of their units require constant baby sitting.

Jump back to quoted post9 Aug 2019, 19:56 PMHon3ynuts

I would second this, I don't typically find rifles lacking too much vs comparable infantry, but once tanks and indirect fire come with explosives that ignore RA, the cost to maintain 4-5 rifles(inluding officers in this), RE's any support weapons can be quite prohibitive.

Additioanlly when you get to late game, if you have gone say 2 officers that's 37 popcap, 6 for vet 3 Re's, 1 major 3, ambulance 3, without any support weapons that's 52 popcap. Limiting your tank pool (IK there is decrewing) and decreasing your manpower income. For example the other day i got 2 officers and 2 support weapons, then I was popcapped with 2 vehicles, a sherman/priest. It's hard to make decisive pushes with limited vehicles and even if successful reinforcing may still drain your reserves.

TLDR: Popcap sucks when you gotta spam rifles

Jump back to quoted post9 Aug 2019, 20:33 PMStug life

1 if 5 men are weak to explosive immagine using gren
2 USF can surpass the pop cap limit thank to the crew mechanic, if u have pop cap problems with USF immagine any other faction whom can’t use crew mechanic

Jump back to quoted post9 Aug 2019, 22:54 PMHon3ynuts

I didn't mention squad size and I acknowledged the popcap
Did you even read the post?
From Original post
1 "explosives that ignore RA"
2"IK there is decrewing"

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2019, 07:29 AMStug life

How to spot a fan boy: “cons are better than rifle”

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2019, 07:27 AMLoren

280/28 cost is same as Tommies, but look at the specs. why so ineffective like this?

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2019, 07:27 AMLoren

what a historical accurate.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2019, 07:27 AMLoren

USF's Rifleman has 0 advantages for make baselines. even conscripts are better.
280/28 cost is same as Tommies, but look at the specs. why so ineffective like this?
Rifleman in most cases are forced to hug cause Garand has low long-range DPS.
semi-automatic rifle in ww2 is trash? :/ what a historical accurate.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2019, 11:09 AMgbem

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

every veteran player here will state that rifles are far superior to cons... this is just ridiculous

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 00:29 AMLoren

lol

every veteran player? who?

I know at least one veteran player who says conscript is op. Ashablois, a user who also participated in the few matchs, agrees that the conscripts are now far superior to Riflemen.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2019, 13:37 PMRifleMan

Yeah, avoid playing USF in teamgames, I have been playing only UKF/SOV when I'm playing allies, especially in 3v3s or 4v4s...
I agree, riflemen is kinda good in some situations, but when facing OKW build with 4 volks and a SP while you just have 3 RM and a RE squad is really hard to handle and it just snowballs from there most of the times and the officers are not even that good, I think the officers should be optional unit to build because of the massive MP bleed, I would rather get mgs as it can hold the front and don't bleed much vs a officer, that would fix a good chunk of the USF problem.

Jump back to quoted post16 Aug 2019, 15:17 PMDangerous-Cloth

Shit narrow maps that negate USF design an playstyle.

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