Should USF/UKF have non doc 160hp rocket arty?

Jump back to quoted post30 Jul 2019, 17:02 PMKiwiBirb

?Many? People complained about the lack of conventional rocket artillery for USF/UKF, as the Caliope/ Land mattress serve as more area denial weapons

An idea to give them 160HP rocket artillery was to give them both “Command half tracks” that cost 85fu 360mp that can call in free Rocket strafes/Bombing runs on long cooldowns.

The loud drone of the plane engine would serve as a warning that the strike is coming and the command half track would appear on the minimap

Anyway I thought i’d bring this idea I saw awhile ago and liked.


If these were added as non doctrinal units what would have to be changed for USF/UKF to be balanced with them?

Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2019, 13:36 PMTiger Baron

I'd just give the option to the Calliope to be able to switch to it's main gun to be honest, like in the All Units mod and the KV-8 in vanilla to make it more worthwhile cause I still don't see it as often as the Priest.

But yeah, I don't think the Land Mattress or the Calliope should be in the base package of the Allied Armies, I have no idea why the OKW, Ost and Sovs also have them either, should all be doctrinal in my opinion.

That makes me wonder why the Wehrmacht in CoH also had the Nebelwerfer and walking Stuka again, they were basically the only ones with non-doc rocket artillery.

Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2019, 13:36 PMTiger Baron

I'd just give the option to the Calliope to be able to switch to it's main gun to be honest, like in the All Units mod and the KV-8 in vanilla to make it more worthwhile cause I still don't see it as often as the Priest.

But yeah, I don't think the Land Mattress or the Calliope should be in the base package of the Allied Armies, I have no idea why the OKW, Ost and Sovs also have them either, should all be doctrinal in my opinion.

That makes me wonder why the Wehrmacht in CoH also had the Nebelwerfer and walking Stuka again, they were basically the only ones with non-doc rocket artillery.

Jump back to quoted post1 Aug 2019, 22:30 PMGrumpy

I play USF more often than any other faction and would put the need for additional arty options at the very last of my wishlist. Power creep has made rifles not trade well against anything in the early to mid game. USF doesn't have a good counter to a sniper before it gets enough fuel to unlock the M20, and even then it is more of a soft counter than a hard counter. I'd really like the start of the game more balance, particularly against OKW (which seems a worse matchup than OST at the start), and then a more accessible sniper counter.

Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 06:36 AMKoRneY

Wehrmacht also didn't have the wonderful 105 and they had to go up against emplacements. And free trenches.

Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 06:36 AMKoRneY

Wehrmacht also didn't have the wonderful 105 and they had to go up against emplacements. And free trenches.

Jump back to quoted post2 Aug 2019, 06:47 AMMaret

I have very bad news for you - late game arty couldn't help you in early-midgame. It also couldn't counter in early-mid game snipers.



You about brummbar? Or doctrinal howitzer? Trenches now could be occupied by any units not only brits as it was earlier. Use flamers under smoke or mortars to make sitting in trenches less profit to your enemy.