So are they really nerfing the Churchill Tank?

Jump back to quoted post14 Jul 2019, 21:46 PMHannibal

While I agree that the Cromwell is actually not that bad (from what I felt ingame it lacks a bit in the AI departement compared to the P4s, but I don't have much hard data on that, you seem to have more), the pen on the Cromwell and P4s is mostly the same. Especially if you keep in mind that the P4s and Axis tanks in general usually have more armor. So P4 has about 75% pen chance (slightly depending on range of course) against cromwell, while it's approximately 66% the other way around. Rest of the stats is absolutely comparable.

Jump back to quoted post14 Jul 2019, 22:16 PMCODGUY

The Cromwell is a terrible tank and I'm actually not even sure what useful purpose it serves besides countering Pumas. It costs as much as a Sherman but is worse in every way, Bad AI bad AT.

Jump back to quoted post14 Jul 2019, 22:16 PMCODGUY

The Cromwell is a terrible tank and I'm actually not even sure what useful purpose it serves besides countering Pumas. It costs as much as a Sherman but is worse in every way, Bad AI bad AT.

Jump back to quoted post14 Jul 2019, 22:16 PMCODGUY

The Cromwell is a terrible tank and I'm actually not even sure what useful purpose it serves besides countering Pumas. It costs as much as a Sherman but is worse in every way, Bad AI bad AT.

Jump back to quoted post15 Jul 2019, 18:10 PMthekingsown10

Removing the Churchill's smoke is a must . There is really no excuse for a unit with so much HP to have a smoke ability and to actually be destroyed at all must solely rely on attack ground .

Jump back to quoted post15 Jul 2019, 18:10 PMthekingsown10

Removing the Churchill's smoke is a must . There is really no excuse for a unit with so much HP to have a smoke ability and to actually be destroyed at all must solely rely on attack ground .

Jump back to quoted post15 Jul 2019, 19:22 PMStug life

Comes out fast, I personally use it vs mg to makes infantry come in suppressed or to run away as it comes out very fast and last long
Someone ballsy even use it on reverse to avoid at gun fire

Jump back to quoted post15 Jul 2019, 21:56 PMSeductiveCardbordBox

I mean. With shermans, panzer tactitian, lights getting smoke left right and centre... Basically everything and its dog has smoke now, it's just in different shapes and sizes.

Jump back to quoted post15 Jul 2019, 21:58 PMStug life

u mean any allied vehicle panzer tactician does not allow smoke on anything for osther unless u pick the dock

Jump back to quoted post15 Jul 2019, 22:06 PMKatitof

Then I guess its good that its in meta doctrines?
Also *laughs in smokeless soviets*

Jump back to quoted post13 Jul 2019, 22:32 PMAlphrum

axis dont have access to 60 range high damage/pen tank destroyers, which is why they struggle vs Churchill's

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2019, 18:46 PMFelinewolfie

JgPanzer 4 - Range 60 <- Not high pen like Alphrum implies (170 far, same as Stug)
Pak 40 - Range 60 <- Not a tank destroyer fyi.
Elephant - Range 60 (80 in Hulldown) <- 70 range actually, try to get that in 1v1.
JgTiger - ? 60 or more <- 80 range actually, try to get that in 1v1.

Etc, Etc <- Ran out of things to list.