Ostwind's penetrations

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2019, 17:36 PMdistrofio

Didnt you complain before using unrealistic stats and less than ideal void universe combats and even when proved wrong in such scenario now you bring a realistic one that will disfavour your non consequent argument even more?

sander just made a closer to real situation and it went all against your point. But to you, an even more reaslistic scenario is worth to bring up because you think its going to be in your favour?

Dont you get that AFK players combat or very dumb ones are simply out of context now?

Really, are you some kind of troll of another galaxy?

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2019, 17:35 PMKiwiBirb

Ok then what should they do to Ostwind.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2019, 17:38 PMKirrik

"Real situation" proved my point entirely - despite RNG being completely in T-34 favor and hitting every single shot on the move it still lost even under best circumstances.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2019, 17:34 PMKirrik

I was talking about singular unit there but 180 fuel worth of anti-infantry/anti-aircraft vehicles threatening medium while wiping infantry? I dont see Brummbar pulling that off anymore and cost of T4 and Brumm combined is higher than two Ostwinds.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2019, 17:41 PMdistrofio

Please someone put a picture of 2 oswinds being destroyed and torned apart by some actual medium tank like a cromwell, an E8, a T34-85

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2019, 17:38 PMKirrik

"Real situation" proved my point entirely - despite RNG being completely in T-34 favor and hitting every single shot on the move it still lost even under best circumstances.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2019, 17:40 PMLago

The singular Ostwind gets beaten into the dirt by a T-34/76.

Double Ostwind vs stationary T-34/76 is a fair fight with pretty high variance.

Single Brummbar wins against a stationary T-34/76 pretty reliably.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2019, 17:45 PMKirrik

Man you're so focused at T-34 duels even though my entire point here was Ostwind being overbuffed to the point of threatening mediums, not that it's effective AT vehicle. Brummbar was nerfed because it was too good at everything including fighting mediums thankts to retarded armor values. Ostwind is in same state as pre-nerf Brummbar now its too cost effective at what it does for it's cost.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2019, 17:45 PMKiwiBirb

I’m leaving the balance team isn’t stupid and will ignore this circle jerk of a thread

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2019, 17:45 PMKirrik

Man you're so focused at T-34 duels even though my entire point here was Ostwind being overbuffed to the point of threatening mediums, not that it's effective AT vehicle. Brummbar was nerfed because it was too good at everything including fighting mediums thankts to retarded armor values. Ostwind is in same state as pre-nerf Brummbar now its too cost effective at what it does for it's cost.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2019, 17:35 PMKiwiBirb

Ok then what should they do to Ostwind.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2019, 17:38 PMKirrik

"Real situation" proved my point entirely -

Jump back to quoted post22 Jun 2019, 18:13 PMSander93

If the Ostwind actually does prove a bit too powerful in the next couple of weeks (when the initial rage/exitement wears off and our opinions will be less subjective), I suppose we can have a look at making its reload longer from 5s to 6-7s.

That way it will keep its "alpha" damage (1 clip of 7 shots) to reliably force off infantry and light vehicles but its sustained DPS will drop, giving infantry and lights more time (while it reloads) to retreat before it wipes/kills them. The same way the Brummbar is balanced (high alpha / long reload).

Or just increase its cost to ~300-320MP and 100FU.
Increasing the manpower cost is probably a good idea anyway because 270MP is dirt cheap for a medium vehicle.