OKW - Replace Sturmtiger in elite armor doctrine

Jump back to quoted post7 Jun 2019, 07:47 AMSander93

Yes collision issues kinda suck, but you can mostly play around those. Which is why I said you gotta learn how to use it. Avoiding collision shots is something that can be done most of the time, but it takes the correct approach and right way to aim. I can usually get a Sturmtiger to vet 4-5 whenever I use one and it's usually a game changer. Don't expect to get massive hits wiping entire blobs at once (although it's kreygasm when you do get a hit like that) - simply be patient and keep wiping squads one by one. The enemy will be depleted of squads eventually and then you win. The vehicle stun effect on a hit (the AOE for this is really large) is also really good for taking down tanks with other units.

Some tips:
- Always make sure you drive in a straight line to the target. This way the ST will start aiming while slowing down, shaving off a second or two before firing;
- Always aim a bit behind the target. If the shot goes short, you'll still hit the target. If the shot goes far, it will collision with whatever you're aiming for and you'll still hit the target;
- Get used to what parts of a map or objects give trouble with collision and get used to avoiding them. Or crush objects whenever you get the chance;
- Since the ST can fire through trees, try to ambush people with it;
- Never fire up/down a big slope. Either avoid the hill or go to the area that is less sloped (for example, on Hill 400 avoid the south munitions point slope and always the much less sloped part to the north of it to advance and fight)

Jump back to quoted post7 Jun 2019, 09:32 AMTiger Baron

So on top of the huge asking price of manpower and fuel we also need to do mental gymnastics and dance around the battlefield to find the perfect spot to fire the damn thing? What happened to simply making the firing arc bigger, mirage said something about that and then it was left to that.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jun 2019, 11:29 AMSander93

It's not ideal that it takes some effort but it isn't that odd either. If you get an Elefant or a Jagdtiger you also have to place/use it correctly with the proper support in place or the unit will not be effective. Sturmtiger isn't that different. If you use it often those workarounds become natural and it becomes quite easy to use effectively.

It's also not a huge price in manpower and fuel anymore, it's only a bit more expensive than an OKW Panzer IV now (570/165) while it has the potential to deal tons of damage and wipes. Now it's quite cheap for what it can do imo.


Nothing could "simply" be done to the firing arc, we spent a week trying to adjust it and nothing worked. Neither can anything be done to the aim time/animation. It uses a complex set of (unique) animations and mechanics that couldn't be tempered with with the limited mod/Relic tools and without animators/coders.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jun 2019, 13:49 PMAarotron

Turn it into mobile b4

Jump back to quoted post7 Jun 2019, 13:00 PMdasheepeh

my experience with sturmtiger as okw in my games is as follows:

- i move up the sturmtiger to the front
- can't land an effective shot at reasonable micro cost because enemy units casually move out of the way
- i get frustrated

Jump back to quoted post7 Jun 2019, 14:58 PMNaOCl

This is my experience, and hitting british emplacements and not knocking them out.