Storm trooper rework is awful

Jump back to quoted post20 Apr 2019, 07:57 AMKatitof

Commandos also have one of THE shittiest vet bonuses in the game.
25% accuracy is their ONLY combat vet bonus, while storms get proper vet.

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2019, 13:45 PMCresc

Seems like a L2P issue to me.

By the way, the comparison with commandos is unfair, given how extremely OP commandos are and still not nerfed appropriately to this day.

Jump back to quoted post21 Apr 2019, 20:05 PMKatitof

Cons primarily are mainline infantry.
Volks primarily are mainline infantry.
Storms are primarily support infantry.
Commandos are primarily ambush CQC AI specialists.

Do you start to see the picture why it "is unfair" or should I bring crayons for better explanation?

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2019, 00:37 AMtightrope

You're telling me I can't brainlessly charge into the enemy and win? Must be trash

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2019, 00:06 AMaerafield

*yawn*

Put a stormtrooper next to a road, then wait for the enemy to come closer, activate tactical assault and enjoy your free wipe.

"B...But Storms lose a 1v1 engagement vs Commandos and Shocks!!!!!"

coh2.org balance forum verdict: unit must be bad It's also funny how OP claimed that the changes made Encirclement weaker. The flame nade got additional dmg vs caches and they have higher (de-)capture-rate. The only thing I agree on is the schreck upgrade. That one is so trash they might as well remove it

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2019, 00:37 AMtightrope

You're telling me I can't brainlessly charge into the enemy and win? Must be trash

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2019, 07:35 AMMoBo111

Nah, this is clearly a learn to ambush issue, i mean i made them work in a few games i had and i am not a great player. Just place them behind cover or in a crater, put hold fire on (duh) and wait for the enemy to come your way. It's really not rocket science.
It's true that they are not a great antiblob tool, but you know, you can't have everything and ostheer has other tools to handle that.
And yeah, you might as well delete the schreck.

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2019, 09:51 AMAlphrum

you guys are missing the point here, with mp44's they are more effective. They can still ambush very well with mp44's, but also can engage at mid- long range with them compared to mp40's. mp44's gives them more versatility

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2019, 07:01 AMblancat

Stormtrooper does not have the skills to hit blobing units in a short time

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2019, 00:37 AMtightrope

You're telling me I can't brainlessly charge into the enemy and win? Must be trash

Jump back to quoted post20 Apr 2019, 07:41 AMblvckdream

Except Commandos have 5 men and a strong grenade which makes them infinitely better than Shock Troopers.

Jump back to quoted post22 Apr 2019, 09:54 AMKatitof

I think you are missing the point.

They were given MP40s, because they are -not meant to- engage at mid-long range, because the squad was reworked into CQC ambusher, which also made it its own distinct squad that didn't overlapped with PGs.

You want mid range damage, use just buffed PGs.