Soviet General Faction Changes - New cmdr mod 5.0

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2019, 20:44 PMSander93

SVT package would give much more power early and mid game. Same for PPSH upgrade. 7th men at tier 4 gives more power late game. It's a timing investment rather than a DPS investment. It might need tweaks but this principle is pretty solid, imo.

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2019, 20:45 PMKirrik

I'm looking at this buff and thinking: isnt giving conscripts guard mosins and a bit of RA buff/reinforecement decrease is cleaner way of buffing them compared to 7th man, cover modifier and shared exp?

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2019, 20:46 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Wouldn’t you just get penals if you want the early game punch, then build cost effective conscripts later?

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2019, 20:58 PMVipper

-When upgraded with Mobilize Reserves, weapon cooldown and reload on Mosin Nagant rifles is reduced by 50% when in cover.

So now upgrade in cover will be able to get:

0.5 CD +0.5Reload + 1 entity
and another:
Fight to the Death +20% weapon accuracy and 0.5 cooldown
Stand Your Ground -30% received accuracy and -10% received damage
For Mother Russia +50% accuracy
Hit the Dirt -10% received damage, -20% accuracy


Forward HQ Inspiration +0.25 armor, +50% accuracy
Inspire: Infantry cooldowns reduced by 20%
that can be combined in one comamnder

Now unless all these combination are tested thoroughly I would suggest the focus remain on commanders and the changes to conscripts are postpone...

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2019, 20:58 PMVipper

-When upgraded with Mobilize Reserves, weapon cooldown and reload on Mosin Nagant rifles is reduced by 50% when in cover.

So now upgrade in cover will be able to get:

0.5 CD +0.5Reload + 1 entity
and another:
Fight to the Death +20% weapon accuracy and 0.5 cooldown
Stand Your Ground -30% received accuracy and -10% received damage
For Mother Russia +50% accuracy
Hit the Dirt -10% received damage, -20% accuracy


Forward HQ Inspiration +0.25 armor, +50% accuracy
Inspire: Infantry cooldowns reduced by 20%
that can be combined in one comamnder

Now unless all these combination are tested thoroughly I would suggest the focus remain on commanders and the changes to conscripts are postpone...

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2019, 20:49 PMmiragefla

Guards Mosins have the issue of stacking much better on Conscripts as they deal 16 damage I believe. Combined with their accuracy modifiers they would be able to burst models too quickly. You never notice this on Guards because many cases they only have 2 Mosins.

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2019, 21:04 PMKatitof

Damn, it might be almost as powerful as what axis command units can put out CONSTANTLY for ALL infantry units, sometimes even for allied ones, which somehow you've never mentioned before despite it all being stronger/permanent aura buffs on stronger infantries.

Also how hit the dirt is being mentioned here?
Is it now default vet1 ability?
Wasn't it tied to PPSH upgrade?

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2019, 21:04 PMKatitof

Also how hit the dirt is being mentioned here?
Is it now default vet1 ability?
Wasn't it tied to PPSH upgrade?

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2019, 21:24 PMCrecer13

I think this change is meaningless. This is a late game change, the game will be full of tanks, artillery, rocket artillery. And this whole system with cover is bad - the cover on the map will be destroyed and the conscripts will be addicted to sandbags, they become an ideal target. There is no sense in motionless conscripts, if their main goal is to throw a grenade, that is, they should be in the center of events. If you need to cover the point - the machine gun will do it better. All you had to do was leave six people and give them an improved Mosin rifle.

Jump back to quoted post24 Apr 2019, 22:14 PMMrBananaGrabber.

Is it possible to add a UKF style icon to them as part of the upgrade, so you know when the buff is active? (for when only some of the squad are in crator cover, etc, as they are 7 man).

Also, it might be worth speeding up the molotov throw, especially now that the US have them and actually throw them at a decent speed, rather than in slow motion.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2019, 00:51 AMmurky depths

It currently shows a sword on the shield icon for those with the 7man upgrade.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2019, 08:58 AMCrecer13

No matter how hard I try, I do not find these changes useful for me. In defense, motionless conscripts are easy targets. In the offensive, seven people are difficult to find good cover, and if these are two squad it is very difficult, plus two units like to interfere with each other. So even with these changes for me, conscripts will remain one squad for throwing AT grenades.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2019, 09:01 AMKatitof

Defence will be sufficient here, in late game cover is literally everywhere anyway, so its not an issue and for offence you'll just pick PPSH or penals.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2019, 09:15 AMCrecer13

It is, this late game. In which at every step - tanks, artillery, rocket artillery, Brummbar. Staying motionless to be effective will be very difficult, so this eliminates the whole positive effect.