Falls should need munition to upgrade fg42

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2019, 13:49 PMthedarkarmadillo

Which would be a little awkward if you wanted Thompson paras wouldn't it?

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2019, 14:10 PMSeductiveCardbordBox

They also don't drop with thompsons, but the point remains that there have been a long series of adjustments to bring all troops that arrive behind the lines down in terms of their strike potential.

JLI had to upgrade when they could infiltrate.
Stormtroops need to buy an assault package.
Infiltration Commandos now have a grenade cooldown timer and next to no men.
Glider commandos do three loops of the map in a huge glider with associated minimap icon and need a huge landing strip.
Paratroopers need to buy a weapon upgrade.


(Patrisans suck so hard they've never been touched.)

They're also an outlier because they're elite infantry with long range firepower that has no MU requirement. Paras, Obers, Guards - they all have their MU cost.


But as I said before, it's not a high priority thing to address. They're fantastic infantry but the commander's still off meta and other things need much more urgent fixes in the OKW lineup alone.

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2019, 13:51 PMCrecer13

I don't revive the Falls to have 5 or 6 people, but then FG-42 should be reworked: it is long to become a BAR analog, 5-6 people with KAR98K and two FG-42, FG-42 was made in very small quantities and KAK98K It was still the main weapon of the German paratroopers, the FG-42 served mainly the same role as the BAR - a light support weapon.

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2019, 14:10 PMSeductiveCardbordBox

They also don't drop with thompsons, but the point remains that there have been a long series of adjustments to bring all troops that arrive behind the lines down in terms of their strike potential.

JLI had to upgrade when they could infiltrate.
Stormtroops need to buy an assault package.
Infiltration Commandos now have a grenade cooldown timer and next to no men.
Glider commandos do three loops of the map in a huge glider with associated minimap icon and need a huge landing strip.
Paratroopers need to buy a weapon upgrade.


(Patrisans suck so hard they've never been touched.)

They're also an outlier because they're elite infantry with long range firepower that has no MU requirement. Paras, Obers, Guards - they all have their MU cost.


But as I said before, it's not a high priority thing to address. They're fantastic infantry but the commander's still off meta and other things need much more urgent fixes in the OKW lineup alone.

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2019, 20:30 PMCrecer13

FG-42 was extremely complex and extremely expensive to manufacture, which, along with the delay in its establishment, caused very little: 10-12 thousand were produced and it was used not only by Parachutists, it was used by all military branches: Luftwaffe, Wehrmacht, SS.

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2019, 20:30 PMCrecer13

FG-42 was extremely complex and extremely expensive to manufacture, which, along with the delay in its establishment, caused very little: 10-12 thousand were produced and it was used not only by Parachutists, it was used by all military branches: Luftwaffe, Wehrmacht, SS.

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2019, 20:48 PMKatitof

I'll add another trivia about FG-42. The weapon had a kick. And I mean A KICK, it was impossible to accurately fire at anything smaller then a barn at close range using full auto.

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2019, 20:54 PMjagd wölfe

Yeah...no

https://youtu.be/7x6LibuC4N0

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FG_42

"The FG 42 was a select-fire air-cooled weapon and one of the first to incorporate the "straight-line" recoil configuration. This layout, combined with the side magazine, placed both the center of gravity and the position of the shoulder stock nearly in line with the longitudinal axis of the bore, a feature increasing controllability during burst or automatic fire."

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2019, 21:00 PMCrecer13

The video shows that shooting from the hands is not so controlled, it is typical for all automatic rifles for a powerful cartridge (even modern ones), but as a light machine gun with bipod - which it was originally designed, it is a good weapon, as a result FG-42 performed same role as BAR1918A2.

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2019, 21:07 PMjagd wölfe

If you think that recoil for a full caliber rifle is not "controlled" you probably never fired a weapon yourself... that's 5.56 level of controllability for 3 round bursts.

Compare it with this then

https://youtu.be/xtx12dzs5n8

Guy shoot all over the target by several degrees after the first shot

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2019, 21:17 PMCrecer13

I love weapons and I shot a shotgun and AK-74M in automatic mode, but 5.45x39 is a softer recoil than 5.56x45

Jump back to quoted post15 Apr 2019, 21:47 PMthedarkarmadillo

Ya'll need Gun Jesus

Jump back to quoted post16 Apr 2019, 22:58 PMFlyingsmonster

Another option is to go the stormtroopers route, in that they don't spawn with the FG-42, but you need to upgrade to them when they land for no charge, so that there's a slight delay in their DPS.

Jump back to quoted post17 Apr 2019, 00:32 AMSkysTheLimit

I don't see any reason they shouldn't have to upgrade. Even if it's free I don't see why it's okay with them to drop with all-range effective weapons.

They get a snare, it's not like Paras have every advantage.