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Falls are made of glass but hit like a truck.
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They do not infiltrate so there is no requirement for the upgrade. You might as well just make them drop in slower for all that great" change would do. I see literally no purpose in it, especially if it's free. Should commandos have to upgrade? I'd say that an extra man and the ability to reinforce if done well is equal to long range dps no?
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Id say commandos should too yeah. I don't really like the idea of high dps squads just spawning ready to go behind the lines. Even if it's not infiltration
I understand what Paras advantages are. I'm simply asking that we remove the ability for anyone to drop things behind the lines for easy wipes
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Not that I think Falls should be nerfed or anything (I think they are fine now), but where did the whole "glass" thing came from? 4-man with 0.83 RA is hardly "glass", even if they don't win any durability contests they are not THAT far behind PGrens and whatnot.
I mean "cannon" is obvious, squad with 4 BARS is nothing to sniff at.
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In case you missed it, infiltration commandos spawn with less models and glider commandos, before they land you can be on the other side of the map.
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Because falls are meant to close the gaps between your mainline inf strenght and the enemy least favourable fighting distance.
Falls are expensive AF and fragile unless vetted. They are an expensive tool not meant to crude infantry combat but flanking and ambushing weaker targets.
If their weapons werent as good, ambushing would take ages and the other player would easly retreat.
Simpler minds would send them like lambs to the slaugther and find them frustated in both ways, why they cant win face to face combat and why they have overperforming guns
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It even fits. Paratroopers didn't land with huge guns. They landed wih pistols and grenades and their heavy gear was dropped in capsules to be recovered. Obviously we don't need to go that far, but MP40s into FG42s would fit.
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The FG42 was specifically designed to be carried and dropped with the paratrooper because Falls were under armed on drops and heavier weapons in crates deemed to be unfeasible.
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Isn't there better things they could work on than stripping power away JUST to add it to a free upgrade that serves no practical purpose?
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I just told you the practical purpose, not being ready to wipe things so easily. Falls drop zone is WAY more precise than airborne so it's a lot easier to drop them in behind the lines.
And the squad size isn't the reason for that difference, because the Soviet airborne drop is more precise too. Unless it's been changed since i last tested it
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USF paras can drop with pin point accuracy on beacons, falls drop seems to be effected by LOS.
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how about we nerf the stipid soviets guards and penals and shock troops into t 70 overpower as f
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I would have no issue to have start with other weapon and having a weapon upgrade for MP power cost reduction.
With current buff to units they are not worth 380 manpower cost.
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What about adding a muni upgrade and buffing them? I'd rather make them worth the high cost than have them be cheaper. All I'm saying is delay that performance a little past the drop. Can still upgrade anywhere, just like Paras
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One has to test but if one keeps the high cost and add munition cost I would rather add 5 member and have them 5 K98 and able to upgrade with 2 Fg42.
If they have a high cost and require a weapon they should not be easy to wipes.
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