OST Grens

Jump back to quoted post29 Mar 2019, 23:56 PMGrim

Clearly the best solution is to make them a mirror of cons with 6 men. Obviously add teching for grenade and faust and remove Mg42. Otherwise good to go.

Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2019, 02:46 AMOutsider_Sidaroth

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If you want to use Volks then play OKW, Wehr has the MG42/Sniper to make up for Grens not punching above their weight, I don't think Grens are supposed to walk over more expensive units without support.

Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2019, 08:02 AMdistrofio

If a unit does it its bad, if a units doesnt its deserved...
This allied fanboys nowdays...

Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2019, 08:09 AMMr Carmine

Stop demanding everything allies have..... axis fanboys nowadays. Most just have axis always UP complex.

Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2019, 19:36 PMBalanced_Gamer

I think Grenadiers are fine.

The issue is mainly the Brits. The "Bolster Squad Package" which is like a weapon upgrade for everyone, is cost effective, comes early. Maybe they should halt it for more later. Change something because Brits usually do have the upper hand.

OR

Give indivdual upgrades for a to Bolster Squad similarly to the Wehrmacht "German Infantry Doctrine". This will fix issues especially what OKW suffers from since they get easily outmatched in the beginning.

(Depends heavily on map also, if it is urban, lots of buildings, Brits dominate).

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Here is how I also see it

Bolster Squad costs ammo (60 ammo or less), limited to 1 Bren (45 ammo) only

Without Bolster upgrade, can get 2 Brens.


It will increase diversity, either going for more durability or more firepower. Diversity is important. I think this is what needs changing. No buffs required personally for Grens, just nerf the UKF Tommies specifically. Something needs amends

Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2019, 19:36 PMBalanced_Gamer

I think Grenadiers are fine.

The issue is mainly the Brits. The "Bolster Squad Package" which is like a weapon upgrade for everyone, is cost effective, comes early. Maybe they should halt it for more later. Change something because Brits usually do have the upper hand.

OR

Give indivdual upgrades for a to Bolster Squad similarly to the Wehrmacht "German Infantry Doctrine". This will fix issues especially what OKW suffers from since they get easily outmatched in the beginning.

(Depends heavily on map also, if it is urban, lots of buildings, Brits dominate).

...

Here is how I also see it

Bolster Squad costs ammo (60 ammo or less), limited to 1 Bren (45 ammo) only

Without Bolster upgrade, can get 2 Brens.


It will increase diversity, either going for more durability or more firepower. Diversity is important. I think this is what needs changing. No buffs required personally for Grens, just nerf the UKF Tommies specifically. Something needs amends

Jump back to quoted post29 Mar 2019, 15:56 PMIncendiaryRounds

The real problem is Brits getting bolster at the 5min mark. They're literally unwipeable with small arms fire. The only thing grens have is the rifle grenade to see if opponent is paying attention. Bolster should be locked behind the cromwell tech.

Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2019, 19:41 PMMr Carmine

So you wanted usf and sov late game to remain very weak. Allied mg,s not able to do their job, wich is supressing inf. Allied doctrinal units forbidin from being as good as or better then non doc axis units. Gotcha. And you call me biased.

You seem to like beat axis before x minute or auto loose style of balance. Those days are over. And good ridance.
That the t34 76 can actualy fight something now and the stug and pack no longer have 100% stun on tanks. Along with axis armour being penned more then 30% of the time must be mind boggeling to you.

Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2019, 00:03 AMSeductiveCardbordBox

I'm sorry, are you suggesting that mobile reinforcement points are, somehow, not good?

Have you played CoH2 since 2013?



No. No it doesn't. It really, really doesn't. Brummbars murder infantry. Centaurs murder infantry. The comet is nothing but a vastly overpriced cromwell.

Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2019, 00:03 AMSeductiveCardbordBox

I'm sorry, are you suggesting that mobile reinforcement points are, somehow, not good?

Have you played CoH2 since 2013?



No. No it doesn't. It really, really doesn't. Brummbars murder infantry. Centaurs murder infantry. The comet is nothing but a vastly overpriced cromwell.

Jump back to quoted post31 Mar 2019, 00:01 AMdistrofio

You are dumber than you sound. Get off your bias glass before pointing the finger at anyone.
Your started this whole story of X copies Y withouth knowing in the first places not even a single patchnote.

Reading is a miracle so hard to find in the forums nowdays.