Thoughts on Panzergrenadiers

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2019, 07:35 AMKatitof

I was ranked 47 in axis and 64 in allies in 2s, when my 2v2 mate was still alive, but suit yourself.

Jump back to quoted post25 Mar 2019, 09:16 AMKatitof

Yes, exactly, because you actually can carry someone in 2s to that rank when you're just slightly above his level.
Get a grip on reality.

Jump back to quoted post24 Mar 2019, 14:45 PMLago

That's another solution to a similar effect.

I'd hesitate to give them IR rifles though. Jaegers proved how much of a nightmare ignoring cover on relatively early units is.

• Panzergrenadiers weapons loadout changed from 4x STG44 to 2x STG44 and 2x MP40 (or Kar 98K or G43)

• STG44 DPS changed from (4x) 15.5 to (2x) 24 at range 5 (as an example)

• Other weapons DPS is (2x) 7 at range 5.

• Panzerschreck upgrade replaces the 2x STG44s with 2x Panzerschrecks.

• These changes would let the Panzergrenadiers have the same DPS at full strength as they currently have (62 at range 5) but would let them retain roughly 75% of this DPS on the last two models, as opposed to now where they lose 25% DPS per model drop (so only 50% DPS left with last two models). This 75% of DPS focussed on the two assault rifles is the same distribution profile that the IR STG44 Obers have.
  

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2019, 22:17 PMKatitof

My idea:

Lets focus on the "panzer" part of these grenadiers and give them vet1 ability that would somehow improve their performance when there is a vehicle nearby. What kind of ability? I'd go with something akin to sherman vet1.

Multikill with single stone.
-unit buffed
-encouraged use of light vehicles
-can't be blobbed as it'll net same results as now

Only disadvantage of the idea is, it wouldn't do them much when there is no owned vehicle around.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2019, 23:50 PMnigo

+1 on that.

I think the "Hirt the Dirt" ability is perfect for that.

Jump back to quoted post26 Mar 2019, 00:12 AMSturmTigerVorgo

I would like to see the received accuracy increased because of 4 man squad. They just die too fast for their price to be effective,

Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2019, 00:50 AMAntemurale

Just had a wild idea on PGren G43 package: what if we kept the current rifles, but gave the rifles extra 5 range? (total 40 range; snipers have 50 range)

PGren G43s have 3.216DPS at 35 range. Working with the DPS slope at long range (18 to 35), DPS at 40 range would be 2.6255. This is just a touch more DPS than Grenadier Kar 98k rifles at 35 range and a touch less DPS than IS SMLE rifles at 35 range. Not too much DPS, but definitely forces you to react. They could even be used to poke a garrison down without the garrisoned infantry able to fire back.

This would make them true long-range specialist infantry, and gives the G43 upgrade a niche role to fill, thus giving players a reason to pick G43s.

Jump back to quoted post30 Mar 2019, 09:13 AMExterior Reptile

At long range they lose against guards, at close range they lose against shocks at mid range they lose against cons.


So I am asking, what is their purpose ?