Is literally the weakest mortar ingame.
You cant even use counterbarage, cause 30% range was changed to barage range.
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15 Mar 2019, 16:17 PM
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15 Mar 2019, 16:24 PM
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it's still one of the best mortar ingame, but yes counter barrage should have a slight range buff (10-15)
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15 Mar 2019, 20:58 PM
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Ost mortar should do manpower bleed rather than excel countering other mortars imo.
Ist true that ost mortar is defensively focused and allied offensively, hence flares.
Imo usf mortar is being a bit overprowered. It could be adjusted with longer smoke range and shorter autoattack to put it a specific role as the others in the same category do.
Ist true that ost mortar is defensively focused and allied offensively, hence flares.
Imo usf mortar is being a bit overprowered. It could be adjusted with longer smoke range and shorter autoattack to put it a specific role as the others in the same category do.
15 Mar 2019, 21:42 PM
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It's the best mortar in COH2. Just check the stats.
15 Mar 2019, 21:44 PM
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Ost mortar is the best in the game all things considered (maybe only 2nd to 120mm thanks to its range, but that has many downsides).
An Ost mortar will frequently beat a soviet mortar even with flares up and synergises perfectly with the faction (Strong MG, typically long range infantry).
USF mortar is fairly comparable to the Ost, though I believe it has less range and isn't backed by as good of an MG (which also comes later)
Disclaimer: I'm fully aware certain people will chime in with some semi relevant stats to tell me how wrong I am but I actually play the game instead of living in some deluded world where everything is looked at in isolation when it suits them...
An Ost mortar will frequently beat a soviet mortar even with flares up and synergises perfectly with the faction (Strong MG, typically long range infantry).
USF mortar is fairly comparable to the Ost, though I believe it has less range and isn't backed by as good of an MG (which also comes later)
Disclaimer: I'm fully aware certain people will chime in with some semi relevant stats to tell me how wrong I am but I actually play the game instead of living in some deluded world where everything is looked at in isolation when it suits them...
15 Mar 2019, 21:57 PM
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Wouldn't mind seeing counter battery get a wee buff, but that aside the 8cm is a solid mortar
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15 Mar 2019, 21:58 PM
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Not broken, don't fix. Best nondoc mortar.
15 Mar 2019, 22:55 PM
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guys its the same as USF one with slightly longer range and more AOE its more than fine
16 Mar 2019, 08:47 AM
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Mortars were nomalized no that long ago.
It can't be worst, when there are at least 2 like it.
It can't be worst, when there are at least 2 like it.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
16 Mar 2019, 14:26 PM
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Not broken, don't fix. Best nondoc mortar.
Wouldn't mind seeing counter battery get a wee buff, but that aside the 8cm is a solid mortar
Also, it's better to check here before spouting X unit is ACTUALLY the worst/best.
https://coh2db.com/stats/
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16 Mar 2019, 15:45 PM
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Mortars were nomalized no that long ago.This
It can't be worst, when there are at least 2 like it.
One of the best patches in coh2 history
16 Mar 2019, 15:56 PM
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Also, it's better to check here before spouting X unit is ACTUALLY the worst/best.
https://coh2db.com/stats/
I tend to ignore all stat sources that isn't the mod tools. I've never seen any source 100% up to date that isn't the mod tools, that site included.
16 Mar 2019, 16:06 PM
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I tend to ignore all stat sources that isn't the mod tools. I've never seen any source 100% up to date that isn't the mod tools, that site included.
Unless it's the latest latest changes, it "should" be up to date. Mortars did in fact changed but that has been quite some time ago.
Problem with mod tools is accessibility and readability. For specific things i also jump straight to the files (i always had the extractor tool).
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
16 Mar 2019, 16:17 PM
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It's literally the best mortar
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16 Mar 2019, 16:29 PM
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Unless it's the latest latest changes, it "should" be up to date. Mortars did in fact changed but that has been quite some time ago.
Problem with mod tools is accessibility and readability. For specific things i also jump straight to the files (i always had the extractor tool).
Yeah it just doesn't include Dec 2018 patches (JLI, brummbar nerfs, etc).
16 Mar 2019, 21:47 PM
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Permanently BannedJust fix the counterbarrage or give a different ability.
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17 Mar 2019, 18:22 PM
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Mortars were nomalized no that long ago.
It can't be worst, when there are at least 2 like it.
Not to mention before that patch the ost mortar was completely op.
bg /l
17 Mar 2019, 19:37 PM
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Best Mortar but you call it weakest.
I can't even.
I can't even.
20 Mar 2019, 14:47 PM
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Actually, OKW mortar LeiG18 is the weakest although has a bit more range, deals the weakest damage in game compared to every other mortar in game.
I posted this forum discussion https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/245809/okw-leig-18-mortar
You will find some extra details there
LEIG 18 does around 180-190 damage dead center on a squad while wehr mortar does around 230-240 damage. Huge difference right. Buff LEIG18 instead.
Wehr mortar is better than LeiG 18
I posted this forum discussion https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/245809/okw-leig-18-mortar
You will find some extra details there
LEIG 18 does around 180-190 damage dead center on a squad while wehr mortar does around 230-240 damage. Huge difference right. Buff LEIG18 instead.
Wehr mortar is better than LeiG 18
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20 Mar 2019, 22:02 PM
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Leig makes up for it in other ways like a quick battage
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