[Proposal]Bring B4 back to the game

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 04:12 AMthedarkarmadillo

Changing the AOE profile to something wider with slightly smaller lethal AOE and Supression would be enough for the barrage and making the current direct fire ability a skill shot that doesn't smack terrain would be enough for that.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 05:05 AMTaksin02

Direct fire never work. it alway shoot the ground and hurt your own units.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 04:15 AMkingdun3284

If you nerf B4 this way, you need more salvo when barrage to compensate it.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 04:15 AMkingdun3284

If you nerf B4 this way, you need more salvo when barrage to compensate it.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 07:12 AMFarlon

Where's the sturmtiger salvo then?

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 07:27 AMkingdun3284

You cant compare things that are not similar

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 09:55 AMVipper

One could simply have 2 fire modes direct and indirect.

Direct fires AP rounds to low range indirect fires HE.

Instead of suppression I suggest "shell shock" a critical that reduces the DPS of the unit affected. (same goes for ST).

Direct hit could cause vehicles critical like driver injured gunner injured instead.

The unit then could have utility instead of raw fire power.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 12:21 PMBizrock

I don't think B4s had AP rounds, not sure tho, but is quite unlikely.
But I like the crit idea.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 12:39 PMVipper

It had concrete penetrating round similar to ISU-152 so call it that.

This can work 2 ways either there can be 2 fire modes or it can be a skill shot similar to ISU-152 or Pershing.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 12:44 PMBizrock

I can't find any source with that information that they had 203mm concrete penetrating shells, can you share with us?
I don't think there is any reason to a 203mm 100kg shell be a penetrating shell.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 13:03 PMElSlayer

Couldn't find any good english language sources, only russian ones.


Here CP stands for Concrete Piercing.

I did only a quick search, maybe you'll have more luck - try searching for "203mm G-620 concrete piercing".

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 08:17 AMthedarkarmadillo

exactly. one is a late game unit designed to smash enemy hard point, do massive damage if it hits tanks and punish infantry, the other....
wait i forgot which one i was describing first......

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 03:58 AMkingdun3284

Anyone building a B4 in team game is just a troll. B4 is too strong for being an artillery if it hits and Soviet gets ML152 already, so I propose to turn B4 more a pak like emplacement.

Idea:
Able to shoot through walls. It won't be able to autofire unless the ability below is turned on due to the scarcity of B4's ammo. No more direct hit and useless barrage.

Details of the ability:
cost: 90 munition
Allow the B4 to auto fire to only vehicle within the range. Maximum shell that can be shot within the time period is 3. Reload time between each shell is 12 second. Can kill some infantry if they are too close to the targeted tank.
Duration: 60 seconds
CD: 60 seconds
Range: same as pak43.
Maximum damage if directly hit a vehicle: 400.

Idea of vet:
turn faster, reduce CD and munition cost.