Bring USF Artillery inline with OKW

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 11:19 AMkingdun3284

I play soviet mainly. But I want my teammate become a bit more useful.
Axis always get nondoc rocket artillery no matter what kind of combination.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 11:30 AMVipper

This thread has nothing to do with balance.

It a simply case of the grass in greener on the other side of the fence. Pls lock or move to lobby.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 06:43 AMkingdun3284

No, I play OKW If I suck so hard.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 13:05 PMStug life

go ahead and show use 100 replays were u always win if they are so op

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 13:07 PMkingdun3284

You are off topic again.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 09:40 AMLeOverlord

Doesn't OKW have emergency smokes that are faster to deploy than Sherman smokes?

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 13:48 PMStug life

no it's not u said "So, to bring USF inline with OKW, Its time to turn Priest/Calliope into a stock unit in T4, or even T3 which fits the timing when stuka arrive (You think it is stupid? so stuka has been that stupid for many years) and replace the doctrinal priest/Calliope with the 105mm howitzer in COH1 which can use the model of ML152 anyway. "

so that means that PROKW is too strong right now and u tested it, and want the same power for usf, fact is u have to prove OKW is too strong, or are u like the flat-earther "nah u have to prove the planet is round even thought it's already established fact with scientific proof, not us that want to make the change to flat"

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 14:25 PMkingdun3284

The win rate of a single player means nothing statistically. You also can't deduce a single unit is OP by looking at win rate only. This simply illustrate you have no understanding about game balancing.

Moreover, I am not even saying the stat of Stuka is OP or not. It is just too good to have whatever you need in stock. In ideal situation, this should be able to be shown by comparing the use rate, win rate and K/D ratio between stuka and priest and calliope in team game.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 14:27 PMStug life

as USF lacks tool so does OKW, example no mortar,no reliable at infantry, no smoke other than isg, etc

every faction has it's perks and cons

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 07:08 AMkingdun3284

So? We are talking about mobile artillery. You are off topic.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 14:31 PMkingdun3284

No, you don't need the exact same tool when there is equivalent that can serve the same purpose. Reliable or not is performance issue which is another topic that you can simply start another thread to complain about it.

Just show me a stock unit of USF that can be a equivalent when compare to stuka while serving the same purpose. The definition of serving same purpose would be a unit with a powerful barrage that can deal a lot of output in a short time to an area without the need to holding the line and is devastating enough to kill a team weapon with a salvo if it hits while keeping itself in a relatively safe distance which can't be return fire by mortars. If it exists, I will be convinced


every faction has it's perks and cons is not an excuse to stop balancing. It contributes nothing that you can simply spam this useless sentences to end a discussion in every balance thread.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 14:38 PMinsaneHoshi

You being clinicly ignorant about the details of this game is on topic.

It shows that all your ideas are based on shaky logic.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 14:52 PMStug life

Just show me a stock unit of OKW that can be a equivalent when compare to M20 while serving the same purpose. The definition of serving same purpose would be a unit with a low tech cost that can place mine has a good mg on top good speed a lot of line of sight and has a crew which has zooks. If it exists, I will be convinced

every faction has it's perks and cons is not an excuse to stop balancing. It contributes nothing that you can simply spam this useless sentences to end a discussion in every balance thread.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 10:29 AMkingdun3284

Yup, I am struggling to deal with heavy simcity of OKW in team game when I have chosen a commander without priest or calliope. I really hope l2p can solve my problem but I find that only learn to choose infantry company everytime can solve my problem which makes me feel unfair when OKW players are not limited to a single/two commander to be playable.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 14:59 PMSander93

Are you being serious? It is exactly the point of this game that one has to make strategic choices (in this case, a commander selection to counter the enemy's commander selection) in order to win. If you are unwilling to make sacrifices in your own play to counter enemy builds, it most definitely IS a l2p issue.

OKW faces the exact same problem where they do not have any stock tools to reliably deal with British emplacement cancer commander and only the LeFH commander can deal with that.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 15:04 PMSander93

OKW sim city isn't doctrinal? What fortifications exactly can they build that isn't doctrinal?

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 14:57 PMkingdun3284

You get kubel for a good mg on top good speed and a lot of line of sight that serve the purpose of the recon utility of M20 and you get strum with a panzer sherck that serve the purpose of countering LV like bazooka. They are equivalent for serving those purpose.

Jump back to quoted post15 Mar 2019, 15:05 PMkingdun3284

T4 like Bofors, T2 like forward assembly, ISG like mortar emplacement and mg and atg as well and you need to face multiple things like that in team game that camps at VP.