Received Accuracy for OKW JLI and USF Pathfinder

Jump back to quoted post18 Feb 2019, 22:28 PM#12345678

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P.S US Ranger: Vet 0, "0.8"; Vet 3, "0.8*0.71 = 0.568"
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Jump back to quoted post18 Feb 2019, 22:45 PMVipper

Ranger also have 10% damage reduction and additional member and thus are more durable.

Jump back to quoted post18 Feb 2019, 22:47 PM#12345678

I am talking Pathfinder, do not derail topic.

Ranger is just a reference on the RA of the best USF infantry.

Jump back to quoted post18 Feb 2019, 22:45 PMVipper

Ranger also have 10% damage reduction and additional member and thus are more durable.

Jump back to quoted post18 Feb 2019, 22:53 PMKatitof

Well, rangers cost 400mp.
JLI are itty bitty cheaper then that, arrive 2 CP earlier and don't exactly need to close in.

Jump back to quoted post18 Feb 2019, 22:28 PM#12345678

If I recalled correctly, the received accuracy for JLI and Pathfinder were:

JLI: Vet 0, "0.8"; Vet 2, "0.8*0.71 = 0.568", Vet 5, "0.8*0.71*0.8 = 0.454"

Pathfinder (include I&R version): Vet 0, "1.0", Vet 2, "1*0.71 = 0.71".

P.S US Ranger: Vet 0, "0.8"; Vet 3, "0.8*0.71 = 0.568"

So JLI is completely more durable than Pathfinder and other allied infantry in infantry fight. Does the balance team see this aspect before they nerf I&R pathfinder

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2019, 01:22 AMinsaneHoshi

OKWs 5 levels of vet should not be compared to the 3 levels of other factions units; five levels of vet is supposed to be better than 3 levels of a comparable unit.

Jump back to quoted post18 Feb 2019, 23:30 PMVipper

I have not compared the units in anyway, I have simply pointed out to OP that is one want to talk about that durability of Rangers one has to include to *0.9 damage reduction.

Feel free to compare the units if you want to.

Jump back to quoted post18 Feb 2019, 22:45 PMVipper

Ranger also have 10% damage reduction and additional member and thus are more durable.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2019, 01:52 AMdistrofio

OP, breakthrough information: JLI and pathfinders are not meant to do the same neither in the same factions, therefore comparing them is like comparing apples to oranges. They only share to be call-ins infantry with some long range superiority.

If your point is "why my Xunit is not better than their Yunit" you are on a dead end. And this thread will blow like a ballon on toxicity and offtopics.

Again costs mean nothing compared with other factions, but to the faction itself and its relative cost to achieve more important goals. In other words, JLI cost is the only way to balance JLI within OKM. Just that, as for pathfinders costs mean you need to choose either that troop or any other one.
But dont worry its a common mistake everyone here likes to do, specially when its alliedbiased, im not saying you do, but other people.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2019, 02:27 AM#12345678

Please do not post these useless arguments here. Data analysis or playing experience.

I recalled how you derail things (and ignore facts as well as insult others) in last rifleman topic.
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Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2019, 01:25 AMcochosgo

Actually, after okw's vet rework last year, you actually can (for the most part).

OKW units recieve their stat bonuses in the first 3 levels, while vet 4 and 5 are active or pasive abilities. I can't remember if their 3 levels are to be achieved at the same time as other factions or earlier. It's in the rationale of the balance patch so, we just have to find it

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2019, 01:25 AMLoopDloop

Um


That looks like a comparison to me. On a sidenote, I'm surprised you didn't bring up the obvious bit that rangers have an extra man lul.

It's a fair point, but the fact that we're even comparing an elite, 3cp assault/cqc squad that costs 400 manpower/90 munitions (if we're counting upgrades) and 35 to reinforce to a 1cp support/pseudosniper (long range) infantry unit that costs 280 manpower/60 muni is an issue. Even with an extra man, that's a problem. If riflemen were man for man as tough as even obers it'd maybe arguably be a bit of an issue, let alone a squad that's actually designed to close to point blank (axis doesn't really have any exact analogues to rangers now that I think about it).