Teller mines

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2019, 07:54 AMgbem

the stuart and AEC... not soo much

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2019, 09:32 AMWiderstreit

For that AEC has better AT and Stuart has more armor.

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2019, 09:59 AMKatitof

If only that Stuart armor advantage over AEC was relevant for any other unit then 222.

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2019, 03:15 AMBlebfeesh

The Wehrmacht's 222, with a gren or 2 is enough to scare off any light vehicle short of a Valentine or Stuart. Their light vehicle play is hardly lacking. Its not like the Wehrmacht are lacking for AT. Their front line units can deal with light armor easily if it comes too close. Do the Wehrmacht really need an ability to instantly kill a vehicle? Between Paks, Pgrens, and fausts, its not exactly uniquely hard for them to deal with light vehicles. Its one thing to set a trap using mines and AT weapons for a light vehicle in the case, for every other faction. Its another thing entirely, to just set it, forget it, and laugh when it goes off.

Jump back to quoted post19 Jan 2019, 23:45 PMBaba

Agreed. Valentine just costs too much to get blown out of existence with 60 ammo

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2019, 13:20 PMKatitof

Tellers are one thing I never understood.

Why is it oh so overpowered for 30 muni mine to kill 240 menpower, but its perfectly fine and balanced for 50 muni mine to kill up to 300 mp, up to 120 muni and up to 70 fuel?

I sense a bit of hypocrisy in that.

Sure, infantry, especially vetted hurts more to lose, but vetting it back is also easier and much cheaper then vehicle.

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2019, 13:26 PMSander93

Not saying tellers are fine, but there is a big difference in being able to accompany the one light vehicle with a minesweeper versus being unable to accompany all the 3-5 spread out infantry squads with a minesweeper.

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2019, 13:20 PMKatitof

Tellers are one thing I never understood.

Why is it oh so overpowered for 30 muni mine to kill 240 menpower, but its perfectly fine and balanced for 50 muni mine to kill up to 300 mp, up to 120 muni and up to 70 fuel?

I sense a bit of hypocrisy in that.

Sure, infantry, especially vetted hurts more to lose, but vetting it back is also easier and much cheaper then vehicle.

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2019, 13:38 PMddd

And what if i go triple t70 strat? Is teller fine then?

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2019, 13:39 PMLago

The probability of triggering it. Unless you're baiting vehicles into it, you're just not that likely to hit any individual Teller mine, and if you put them in high traffic areas the sweeper's likely to spot them. Generalist mines go off on anything.



Moreso. Discouraging that sort of spam strat is an argument in favour of leaving Tellers be.

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2019, 13:26 PMSander93

Not saying tellers are fine, but there is a big difference in being able to accompany the one light vehicle with a minesweeper versus being unable to accompany all the 3-5 spread out infantry squads with a minesweeper.

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2019, 13:44 PMddd

But where is allied teller to discourage 222/luchs spam? Or does it work only one way?

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2019, 13:44 PMddd

But where is allied teller to discourage 222/luchs spam? Or does it work only one way?

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2019, 13:20 PMKatitof

Tellers are one thing I never understood.

Why is it oh so overpowered for 30 muni mine to kill 240 menpower, but its perfectly fine and balanced for 50 muni mine to kill up to 300 mp, up to 120 muni and up to 70 fuel?

I sense a bit of hypocrisy in that.

Sure, infantry, especially vetted hurts more to lose, but vetting it back is also easier and much cheaper then vehicle.

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2019, 07:28 AMRollingStone

On one hand we have superiour Light Tech(Stuart, AEC/Valentine, T-70) with both AT and AI abilities and Sdkfz.222 in OST tech tree, with little to zero ability to hurt anything above infantrymen.

But on the other hand we have superior, but slow to set up and aim AT-gun(best movable AT-gun in game, AFAIK) and superb mines to cover flanks of said AT-gun. I see nothing wrong with that.

L2P

However, S-mines are really cancer, especially in OKW's hands. Fast to place, cheap( You still have to have at least 60 munis in your pockets however), and deadly. Some say "Watch for signs", but they are small and easy to hide in bushes or somewhat similar, if well-placed. I would look at them, not Teller mines.

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2019, 12:44 PMStug life

If the one shoot mechanic against LV and LT is unfair lower the damage but make the critical better as the only way for werh to kill it is either pf or bring an at gun (other factions have puma,stuart,t70 and aec)

Jump back to quoted post20 Jan 2019, 17:45 PMBlebfeesh

Congrats, you accidentally agreed with me.
If it gave a heavy vehicle engine crit, and left the LV or LT within an inch of its life, I'd have no problem with it. All I want is for some sort of follow up against the vehicle to be needed. This way it rewards you if someone drives into the mine, but doesn't immediately win you the game in 1v1s and 2v2s.