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IMO the problem is that (like most allied units) they are only good at close range and therefore Volks/grens can sit back and kill a model on walk up engagement. Riflemen are the same way as you have to close the distance to be as effective as their units.
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Zarok is just a cheap copycat of my glorious maxim abuse. Kappa
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IMO the problem is that (like most allied units) they are only good at close range and therefore Volks/grens can sit back and kill a model on walk up engagement. Riflemen are the same way as you have to close the distance to be as effective as their units.
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the fact that maxims have to be spammed in order to be useful vs okw highlights the deficiency of the conscript and of T2 really
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cons don't need a cost increase, as they do their role early game, if u problem is the match up vs volks AFTER stg then just add either a dp28 upgrade or 3 stv upgrade
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while i agree, conscripts are probably the most unefficien unit, you don't need to spam maxim to have a good effect.
It's imo still an offensive mg, while mg42, vickers, aren't. I've played several times 4 cons into sniper into t70, then build t2 to lock down the territory with an AT gun and a maxim.
Be creative. Try out weird builds. The only faction you can do that is pretty much soviets.
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molotov only has a bit less range, thye deal same damage and the time needed to explode is the same, just so u know okw pay the most for teching, their so called upgrades are covered by the cost of trucks
stock cons lose to stock volks on all but the closest ranges meanwhile stock volks get a free pzfaust with a tech building... free incendiary nades with the sws truck which mind you the molly is the worst incendiary nade ingame bar none... and a nondoc weapon upgrade... cons stock or not are trash compared to volks...
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molotov only has a bit less range, thye deal same damage and the time needed to explode is the same, just so u know okw pay the most for teching, their so called upgrades are covered by the cost of trucks
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molotov only has a bit less range, thye deal same damage and the time needed to explode is the same, just so u know okw pay the most for teching, their so called upgrades are covered by the cost of trucks
the difference between the dps of 1 cons vs 1 volks is always almost 1 dps, at long range that hurts, but at close-mid range where the damage is higher overall cons gain the advantage thatnks to having 1 more man (1 more rifle and 80 more hp) the fights go like: 80% for volks at long, 50% at medium and 80% for cons at close, when they are at base upgrades, cons even get better vet, if ur problem is the stg wither they change it to a LMG or they give stv to cons
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Katitof-2018
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i tested too they lost at mid range 3 time and won 3 tahts 50 % .......
u forgot the cost of the last tier and the optionals, dont "but they are optionals" me cause u pay medics for mp and okw has to pay them in fuel ........
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i tested too they lost at mid range 3 time and won 3 tahts 50 % .......
u forgot the cost of the last tier and the optionals, dont "but they are optionals" me cause u pay medics for mp and okw has to pay them in fuel ........
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USF also have to pay fuel for medics and lack any alternative Whatsoever
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u know rakt is the worse at gun and everyone would trade it for the pk 38 for v coh ? (stationary stealth, same pen as usf, but they get huge first strike bonus instead of pen rounds)
the ambu imo is the greatest battle implement ingame XD... so long as rakatencheese doesnt blow it up... but rakatens are another form of cancer that need to be dealt with...
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u know rakt is the worse at gun and everyone would trade it for the pk 38 for v coh ? (stationary stealth, same pen as usf, but they get huge first strike bonus instead of pen rounds)
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look the okw p4 cost around 150 fuel u can almost buy 2 t 34 for it....
and what range is midrange exactly? i had a 20 range engagement using sandbags as a measuring stick and volks won consistently...
your "last tier" is equivalent to ost T4 and is superior to sov T4 (looks at OKW P4)
sov pays with medics on a faction that is equivalent to a gigantic manpower sink outside of penal deathsquads... OKW pays with 15 fuel on a building thats basically designed for extremely efficient support/blob play...
also OKW doesnt even have to pay for medics for healing... sturmpios drop healing for muni... imo much better than a 250mp manpower sink or a 15 fuel upgrade...
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the sthealt of the rakt is there cause it only has 50 range and doesn't have atgun cover(shhots don't bounce from the at defense) the m7 has more range more cone of fire fire faster but has less pen
the zis would like to have a word with you... mind you the rakaten is not the worst AT gun... however it is the cheeziest... it cannot be used like standard AT guns like the pak 40 or the M7 or the 6 pdr... it has to be used in hold fire and open fire only when a tank has either come close enough for you to snare and kill with the rak...
also mind you rakatencheese is the best ambulance killing and repairing tank killing strategy ingame...
lastly rakatens cant be spotted via mortar flares pathfinders snipers or recon T-70s.... this means an area that is thought to have little AT might be a deathtrap for any tank... also it absolutely neutralizes the snipers ability to pick it off and the soviet mortars ability to push off an AT gun by mortarfire...
lastly the rakaten costs 270 mp... same as an m7 but better...
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