Valentine is still shit
14 Dec 2018, 00:19 AM
#1
Posts: 223
Not much to say, very unimpressed with the Valentine. Comes too late to help counter LVs, main gun damage is 120 and not 160 why? Since the AEC is strictly AT purposed the Valentine could be made a AI/AT hybrid. Currently the only good thing about the Valentine is the sight range, which is... not that good for 80F.
Fail of War 3 
14 Dec 2018, 01:24 AM
#2
Posts: 14
Well, i think it's anti-infantry ability is better than AEC, and that makes it much better option. And valentine doesn't require AEC upgrade.
I just want them to change the bugs that valentine still shows to be 12 pop as it costs actually 7 pop.
I just want them to change the bugs that valentine still shows to be 12 pop as it costs actually 7 pop.
14 Dec 2018, 02:20 AM
#3
Posts: 261
I believe it is a support weapon who can defend itself, it access to a lot of abilities.
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19 Dec 2018, 12:48 PM
#4
Posts: 203
Agreed, valentine comes too late for it cost. It need either come at 4 cp or have another buff like -20% reload time and 20% more accuracy
19 Dec 2018, 13:13 PM
#5
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2 Valentines can take out a p4 with ease now
19 Dec 2018, 13:26 PM
#6
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
2 Valentines can take out a p4 with ease now
So can 2 AECs, hardly a reason to get valentine though.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
19 Dec 2018, 13:37 PM
#7
Posts: 203
2 Valentines can take out a p4 with ease now
2 Valentines cost more than one p4.
The thing is, Valentine come at a time where i only 1 min. away from a centaur or a cromwell.
19 Dec 2018, 13:47 PM
#8
Posts: 290
Not much to say, very unimpressed with the Valentine. Comes too late to help counter LVs, main gun damage is 120 and not 160 why? Since the AEC is strictly AT purposed the Valentine could be made a AI/AT hybrid. Currently the only good thing about the Valentine is the sight range, which is... not that good for 80F.
Think you have never felt the pain of waiting for cp5 to get your counter out...
19 Dec 2018, 15:21 PM
#9
Posts: 34
While Valentine comes rather late to counter very early light vehicles, I don't think that takes away from the performance of the unit itself.
I think this unit's speed, high rate of fire and effectiveness to both infantry/armor, and ability to tank snare attempts, makes it one of the most unique and high performing units in the game.
Albeit a bit RNG depedent, two of these things absolutely obliterates infantry in the right situation.
While it's anti-tank performance is not that great when operating solo, it has very good synergy with any dedicated AT units, especially AT guns. It can provide vision, block pathing, and can easily flank rear armor due to how fast it is.
Valentine spam is arguably a very viable meta.
I think this unit's speed, high rate of fire and effectiveness to both infantry/armor, and ability to tank snare attempts, makes it one of the most unique and high performing units in the game.
Albeit a bit RNG depedent, two of these things absolutely obliterates infantry in the right situation.
While it's anti-tank performance is not that great when operating solo, it has very good synergy with any dedicated AT units, especially AT guns. It can provide vision, block pathing, and can easily flank rear armor due to how fast it is.
Valentine spam is arguably a very viable meta.
19 Dec 2018, 16:41 PM
#10
Posts: 1890 | Subs: 1
Might be worth in team games where you can focus on Sexton synergy? I'd never bother with them in 1v1 though
19 Dec 2018, 17:12 PM
#11
Posts: 4474
This video pretty much explain the patch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSDtoccSdx0 (headphone user warning at 2,30)
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19 Dec 2018, 20:01 PM
#12
Posts: 728
They took the best ability it had away from it that made the most since in the doctrine its in the IR ht scout ability.
19 Dec 2018, 20:22 PM
#13
Posts: 203
Might be worth in team games where you can focus on Sexton synergy? I'd never bother with them in 1v1 though
The ability is bugged at the moment
19 Dec 2018, 23:26 PM
#14
Posts: 5279
its speedy, durable and for 35mu can call in an arty barrage, its not really a bad unit. use its gun to keep up pressure when it hits the field then divert to recon and support when it gets risky to use. its bloody fast and the pen is alright, good enough to risk using it to support against an enemy attack (its not going to hold the line at all, but it might get a shot in now and again. idk what you want from it.
#stalinwept
19 Dec 2018, 23:33 PM
#15
Posts: 3053
I think it comes rather late but performancewise I'm not totally unimpressed. The damage increase seemed to really help it out but IIRC its veterancy bonuses are mostly garbage unless they changed them.
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