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"damage_all_in_hold" effects units that are in garrison or HT.
T-34/76 might have higher reload but it start firing faster with veterancy. Actually if one compares to Ostwind T-34/76 cost about the same while being superior against most target that are not planes.
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One of the many problems with Ostwind and it's performance is that for the same price soviets can have t34/76 which is superior in everything compared to Ostwind. Only thing T34/76 can't do is shoot planes.
"damage_all_in_hold" effects units that are in garrison or HT.
T-34/76 might have higher reload but it start firing faster with veterancy. Actually if one compares to Ostwind T-34/76 cost about the same while being superior against most target that are not planes.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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T34/76 is being stomped by P4, regardless of both being vet0 or vet3, do you also want to address that performance issue?
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So build T34s instead of ostwinds.
Oh wait, you are comparing completely different unit archetypes for completely different factions on opposing sides with completely different balancing(one having cheap, weak stuff, other having expensive and better stuff).
T34/76 is being stomped by P4, regardless of both being vet0 or vet3, do you also want to address that performance issue?
That's stretching and comparing apples to oranges as far as it gets.
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We are talking about Ostwind here and how utterly useless it is to build for OST faction. And as you aren't even playing the game anymore P4 isn't the old P4 when it actually did something, it's been nerfed to the ground. I would actually say it's now only equal vs T34/76 while it costs more and usually have to fight better armored T34/85.
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So build T34s instead of ostwinds.
Oh wait, you are comparing completely different unit archetypes for completely different factions on opposing sides with completely different balancing(one having cheap, weak stuff, other having expensive and better stuff).
T34/76 is being stomped by P4, regardless of both being vet0 or vet3, do you also want to address that performance issue?
That's stretching and comparing apples to oranges as far as it gets.
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Quick test of mine, showing how T34 hard overperforms. it still has the MG-bug so it shoots without animator.
At range 10 T34 needs 13sec to kill the hole test-squad.
At range 10 PnzIV needs 25sec to kill the hole test-squad.
Result: T34 is op as fuck.
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We are talking about Ostwind here and how utterly useless it is to build for OST faction. And as you aren't even playing the game anymore P4 isn't the old P4 when it actually did something, it's been nerfed to the ground. I would actually say it's now only equal vs T34/76 while it costs more and usually have to fight better armored T34/85.
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How convenient to just show one fight and not upgrade the P4 with pintle. I can see right through your bullshit. So don´t even bother proving how OP the T34 76 is LOL
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Yeah Ostwind needs some sort of buff, but that still doesn´t make the T34/76 OP in comparison to the P4. Not sure why people can´t just discuss the Ostwind without comparing it to completly different units in completly different tech-systems.
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No, you don't get the point. You need to compare to the choices others can get if you pick Ostwind and as many times said Ostwind is useless to build. T34/76 isn't OP, but for it's price it is performing very well compared to price of Ostwind and what it's supposed to do.
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How convenient to just show one fight and not upgrade the P4 with pintle. I can see right through your bullshit. So don´t even bother proving how OP the T34 76 is LOL
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It is a upgrade. Then it performce nearly the same. But, the unit itself is more expensive, the upgrade should increase the damage.
But P4 is ok, the T34 is the one simply overperformes.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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It is a upgrade. Then it performce nearly the same. But, the unit itself is more expensive, the upgrade should increase the damage.
But P4 is ok, the T34 is the one simply overperformes.
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It also gives P4 anti air capabilities.
Maybe P4 performance makes ostwind obsolete, eh?
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The P4 costs more than the T34/76 because it easily beats it 1v1. Is it so hard for you to understand that tanks fight both infantry and vehicles? Anyways I give up. Axis bias just too strong to have a reasonable thread.
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222 makes Ostwind opsolete. Panzer 4 makes Ostwind obsolete. Even Brummbär maks Ostwind obsolete.
1. Ostwind shouldn't be in T3. There is still the Panzer4 and in T2 the 222.
2. Ostwind should be buffed.
3. Counterparts are too strong too. (Looking at T34/76 as AI vehicle)
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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T34 is NOT counterpart to Ostwind. Centaur, Quad M4, M15 and flak HT are.
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