OKW needs some nerfs don’t you think?

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2018, 02:09 AMthedarkarmadillo

To fix the Rak cheese all they need to do is buff its accuracy and a bit extra when attacking out of stealth and make it immobile. The thing is pretty decent when it hits but the ground receives more shots than anything. Creeping death is simply cheesy and if it's there to make up for its poor performance it seems like buffing its performance is the best for both parties. Making it immobile when camo but effective promoted planning and ambush, clearly its not to be like other AT guns so let's just make it effective at its intended role already.

And give it back its +5 range at vet. This thing dies to a sneeze at least reward keeping it alive by only being slightly shorter range than other AT guns...

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2018, 12:44 PMVipper

That imo is incorrect and exactly result of continues buffs. High lethality means that fight last less and are more result being caught out in the open than using tactics.

One has to simply choose a single faction as benchmark, decide the appropriate power of that faction and balance all other faction according to the benchmark.

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2018, 12:44 PMVipper

That imo is incorrect and exactly result of continues buffs. High lethality means that fight last less and are more result being caught out in the open than using tactics.

One has to simply choose a single faction as benchmark, decide the appropriate power of that faction and balance all other faction according to the benchmark.

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2018, 13:08 PMLago

So choose the three factions that are pretty well balanced to each other as that benchmark, rather than the two factions that are a bit of a mess.

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2018, 09:17 AMStug life

u are totally right we need to remove the rakteen and give the okw the pack 20 from vcoh

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2018, 10:53 AMblancat

go back to your fatherland

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2018, 13:03 PMjagd wölfe

Raketen can't be fixed. The issue lies within the low profile of raketen, those ground hits aren't misses but collisions.

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2018, 15:45 PMTobis

I would kill for this bad boy

Jump back to quoted post25 Oct 2018, 00:56 AMLoopDloop

Muh historical realism.

Isn’t there a weapon code setting that can disable projectile collision with ground/obstacles/etc.? IIRC it’s used on the luchs, centaur, and ISU152 that I know of. Just set that on and nerf accuracy a little (so it doesn’t end up hitting things more than all the other at guns as a result) and problem solved.


Ah the fond memories. Perma-immobilize might be just a tiny bit op in coh2 though lol.

Jump back to quoted post25 Oct 2018, 00:56 AMLoopDloop

Muh historical realism.

Isn’t there a weapon code setting that can disable projectile collision with ground/obstacles/etc.? IIRC it’s used on the luchs, centaur, and ISU152 that I know of. Just set that on and nerf accuracy a little (so it doesn’t end up hitting things more than all the other at guns as a result) and problem solved.


Ah the fond memories. Perma-immobilize might be just a tiny bit op in coh2 though lol.

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2018, 15:45 PMTobis

I would kill for this bad boy

Jump back to quoted post25 Oct 2018, 03:47 AMShadowLinkX37

Well they don't seem to wanna remove immobilize from the M6 or Riegal.....

Jump back to quoted post25 Oct 2018, 23:28 PMLoopDloop

Well yeah but do you really think immobilizing mines are comparable to a long range vehicle that can literally snipe the treads off a tank forever (until it gets repaired anyway)? There’s a reason the only vehicle capable of immobilizing at all anymore is kinda slow, dies in 3 at gun hits, has normal range, and has to take 2 shots for a timed immobilization. It was even considered op when the stug and even the Stuart could do it for a short duration.

Jump back to quoted post25 Oct 2018, 23:28 PMLoopDloop

Well yeah but do you really think immobilizing mines are comparable to a long range vehicle that can literally snipe the treads off a tank forever (until it gets repaired anyway)? There’s a reason the only vehicle capable of immobilizing at all anymore is kinda slow, dies in 3 at gun hits, has normal range, and has to take 2 shots for a timed immobilization. It was even considered op when the stug and even the Stuart could do it for a short duration.

Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2018, 07:05 AMDonnieChan

This thread:

https://www.coh2.org/topic/83610/okw-needs-some-nerfs-don-t-you-think

next Thread

https://www.coh2.org/topic/83587/okw-underperforming



Jesus Christ, mods.... and what you do is invising my posts....

Jump back to quoted post26 Oct 2018, 07:48 AMJae For Jett

Small note though that the tread shot itself actually has 50 range.

Jump back to quoted post24 Oct 2018, 13:01 PMjagd wölfe

In this patch usf is getting some potent early game commanders and ukf is getting good general tools.
Would wait and see.

Jump back to quoted post1 Nov 2018, 19:50 PMdhkdeoen

the thing is, Allies depend on commanders too much. 0 tier assault infantry/AT/light vehicles, heavy tanks, artillery unit.. OKW has them as default. USF needs commander for each. that doesn't even make sense, considering what US army had during the war.

and I wouldn't care about what actually happened during the war if the game is balanced.