Teller mines and OHKs

Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2018, 15:53 PMmr.matrix300

The one is a weapon which damages tanks, can kill lots of infantry, destroy houses and select its target. The other one is a weapon which kills a retreating cons squad if you are lucky.

Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2018, 19:14 PMthedarkarmadillo

Massive buff for the Stuart because if it's behind enemy lines it could just self repair its engine and call it a day.
Ost above all IMO need the heavy mine (well, CURRENT brits could use it pretty bad, but when they get their 5 man 210mp piat armed snare machines they might not so much) simply due to the impact such vehicles can have on the small squads. Like the MG42s Supreme performance it keeps dives shallow.

Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2018, 19:26 PMgbem

Well tbh i find stuarts underwhelming... i once had a game as okw where i simply let the stuart fire at volks under green cover and helt it at bay long enough for me to get a panicrakaten and kill it...

Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2018, 19:26 PMTobis

Equating the teller to the demo is moronic. You can use one sweeper squad to protect your one light tank from mines, you can't sweep every point for all 6 of your infantry squads at the same time.

OHKing lights is lame, but lights are so strong in the meta right now that removing the teller lethality will mess up the faction balance. You already see the puma in 4/5 ostheer matches, it will make ostheer rely on it even more. Need a full overhaul of light vehicle balance if you want to make the teller not OHK them.

Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2018, 19:26 PMgbem

Well tbh i find stuarts underwhelming... i once had a game as okw where i simply let the stuart fire at volks under green cover and helt it at bay long enough for me to get a panicrakaten and kill it...

Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2018, 19:29 PMdistrofio

Stuart is underwhelming, because you ONCE had a clash bewteen green cover volks anda stuart... a panicrakaten? Did you just say you killed oneshot a stuart with a raketen? Man you are making things up, or worse you are proud to play against newbies...

Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2018, 21:07 PMthedarkarmadillo

if you play against hellen keller you get funny results. if the enemy had the know how to not leave you in the most durable situation and let you fire off 3 rockets there might be some weight behind the post but even easy bots wouldnt let that happen...

Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2018, 21:14 PMElaindil

LMAFO. He just showed that stuart sucks vs infantry (whether it's true or not) with his example. And you start flaming him. Please read more carefully.

Back to the topic. Losing to Tellers sucks but I guess it's your fault not to use minesweepers since usually you can guess where the mines are. Though I wouldn't mind it damaging Stuart, T70 and AEC to 1% health and heavy engine damage. Since they are more durable than halftracks and maybe lowering muni cost a bit.

Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2018, 21:27 PMthedarkarmadillo

its a piss poor example. a one off vs an obviously incapable opponent is not a basis for a balance discussion, nor is an RNG anomaly. i once saw a puma OHK a 5 man captain squad, puma AI too strong? why does it have 50 range and counter infantry?

Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2018, 21:27 PMthedarkarmadillo

its a piss poor example. a one off vs an obviously incapable opponent is not a basis for a balance discussion, nor is an RNG anomaly. i once saw a puma OHK a 5 man captain squad, puma AI too strong? why does it have 50 range and counter infantry?

Jump back to quoted post30 Sep 2018, 19:26 PMTobis

Equating the teller to the demo is moronic. You can use one sweeper squad to protect your one light tank from mines, you can't sweep every point for all 6 of your infantry squads at the same time.

OHKing lights is lame, but lights are so strong in the meta right now that removing the teller lethality will mess up the faction balance. You already see the puma in 4/5 ostheer matches, it will make ostheer rely on it even more. Need a full overhaul of light vehicle balance if you want to make the teller not OHK them.

Jump back to quoted post1 Oct 2018, 04:58 AMLoopDloop

I don’t see how the answer to something strong in the meta is literally just OHK. I don’t think it’d be gamebreaking so much as less frustrating and cheesy to make tellers not OHK 60-70 fuel light vehicles. IMO it’d be fair if it left the vehicle with engine damage and enough health to die to a faust.

Despite the fact that it’s much easier to sweep for tellers, losing a light in the midgame to tellers is much worse than losing one of your six infantry squads to a demo. And demos have been nerfed so hard that you’d have to be senile to walk over one with infantry (they literally get countered by a moving and due to small arms) because people said it was cheesy and stupid to lose a squad to one click. You don’t even have to click on a teller to detonate it.