Feedback for Commander Revamppatch

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2018, 16:33 PMSully

Regarding the PAK43, it seems like a brace option isn't gonna make it through, but how about making it at least not de-crewable prior to the gun itself dying? Similar to Brit emplacements.

That way a single satchel can't nullify it and all you'd have to worry about is repairing it versus healing the crew.

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2018, 19:53 PMelchino7

Would it be immune to small arm fire or would it deal damage as if it was a UKF emplacement ?

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2018, 17:15 PMWiderstreit

Now I have something for you! Full working building-, damage- and kill-animations! Neutral optics, often tested.



Video: https://1drv.ms/v/s!Auba63jVJDDGnMZgNA5XyiTVshst3A

I will make a small testing mod, so you can test it by your own!

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2018, 19:59 PMSully

I'd say it should mirror how the Brit emplacements are setup for consistency. Small arms fire does some damage, but not a lot due to armor penetration values.

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2018, 21:54 PMVipper

In this patch 3 new vehicles get received damage modifiers:
KV-2
Kv-8
Dozer
following the change to the KV-1. In all three cases these units can be repaired fast so if there is a need for more durability the modifier should be replaced by HP. For more about this here:
https://www.coh2.org/topic/83890/received-damage-modifiers-for-tanks

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2018, 19:33 PMLoopDloop

I think the original philosophy behind making the kv1 that way when it was first implemented was to prevent it from being a veterancy pinata.

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2018, 20:05 PMVipper

That might be a side affect but there is little reason to justifying KV-2 having damage reduction, other super heavies do not have it.

I don't really want to go into KV-1 because it will derail the thread, but the combination of damage reduction and fast repair as available to KV-2 KV-8 and Dozer should be avoided. If these unit durability HP is enough.

If you want to debate issue further I suggested to do so in the linked thread.

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2018, 17:15 PMWiderstreit

Now I have something for you! Full working building-, damage- and kill-animations! Neutral optics, often tested.



Video: https://1drv.ms/v/s!Auba63jVJDDGnMZgNA5XyiTVshst3A

I will make a small testing mod, so you can test it by your own!

Jump back to quoted post10 Nov 2018, 23:17 PMTiger Baron

Like damn dude you keep impressing me by the phase of this, maybe replace the back part with the one from the 251 repair halftrack with the pioneer sitting on it from the All Units Mod and it will be perfect.

Jump back to quoted post11 Nov 2018, 00:05 AMWiderstreit

Let's try it. xD

Edit: Ok, it wouldn't be a problem to do that, but the repair-station would lose its passive character. After removing the hulls and the smashed tanks it become a nice decent building.

Jump back to quoted post11 Nov 2018, 07:55 AMTiger Baron

Yeah I suppose you're right about that, it just would have been some nice eye-candy and added a layer of realism sort of like with that picture of the Tiger you posted.

But really I just really liked the idea of a repair and recovery 251 Halftrack with that animation. I'd even go as far as to say that I like it as much as the PE's Bergetiger from CoH, albeit it's with less health and armor.

Jump back to quoted post11 Nov 2018, 16:31 PMThamor

Any possibility to add for Ostheer&Soviet engineers the possibility to put mine sweeper off so they can still have 4 models using weapons. This change wouldn't be anything too upsetting for anyone as both engineers with minesweepers are pretty much useless for dps and giving the possibility of putting the minesweeper to toggle option would help that little bit.

Jump back to quoted post11 Nov 2018, 21:11 PMKatitof

I'd rather they still had a way to vet with a sweeper instead.
While to a point, it is possible for pios due to how SMGs work, sweeper CEs are vet pinatas unable to score any themselves. Why CE weapon profile wasn't changed together with cons when they had theirs altered is beyond me, both units suffered exactly the same set of problems due to their inaccurate weapon and something tells me CE spam won't become meta if CEs become more reliable with their rifles.