Impact of smoke on AT grenades
9 Aug 2018, 17:40 PM
#1
Posts: 518
I see no reason why Satchel and other AT nades should be useable throught smoke but the Panzerfaust shouldn't. In my opinion Satchels and every other AT nade in the game should't be useable throught smoke. There is just no reason that certain types of AT nades have such an unfair advantage.
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
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Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
9 Aug 2018, 18:00 PM
#2
Posts: 1323 | Subs: 1
It's one of the best counters to Panzer Tactician, it's fine the way it works, the Panzerfaust has a lot of advantages over Allied Snares... Not counting the bug that makes it miss or the fact the Brits don't have snares to begin with.
9 Aug 2018, 18:32 PM
#3
Posts: 518
It's one of the best counters to Panzer Tactician
So allies should be able to counter tank smoke but axis should not?
it's fine the way it works, the Panzerfaust has a lot of advantages over Allied Snares
For example ?
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
Playing with randoms
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
9 Aug 2018, 18:42 PM
#4
Posts: 1323 | Subs: 1
Besides the AEC, which Allied Tank has Ninja Smoke?
Smoother animation, no vet, side tech or doctrinal unit required, not having a Panzerfaust is considered a weakness in many Axis Infantry units.
Smoother animation, no vet, side tech or doctrinal unit required, not having a Panzerfaust is considered a weakness in many Axis Infantry units.
9 Aug 2018, 18:54 PM
#5
Posts: 518
Besides the AEC, which Allied Tank has Ninja Smoke?
With the "Vehicle Crew Repairs" ability of the UKF basically all UKF vehicles and the Sherman.
Smoother animation, no vet, side tech or doctrinal unit required, not having a Panzerfaust is considered a weakness in many Axis Infantry units.
Setting up one truck can last longer than gaining Vet 1. No side tech is required for Satchel or Tank hunter tactics nades either. The side tech is also compensated by Axis usually having more expensive tech ups
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
Playing with randoms
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
10 Aug 2018, 00:28 AM
#6
Posts: 1323 | Subs: 1
Vehicle Crew Repairs inmobilizes you, you can just attack ground it until it dies, you know?
The Sherman smoke is better for covering assaults than retreating through it, it's one click to select and click to throw, while Panzer Tactician is ninja smoke on a Tank. Totally different.
Peniles lose AI power for getting access to the sticky satchel, you know which squads can throw it and which ones you can bumrush, Dank Hunter Sections are doctrinal. You give up things to get them, while Panzerfaust access is guarenteed by just teching up, making it more ubiquitious.
If you get a tank into a position to be snared I don't see why Ninja Panzer Tactician Smoke should save you.
The Sherman smoke is better for covering assaults than retreating through it, it's one click to select and click to throw, while Panzer Tactician is ninja smoke on a Tank. Totally different.
Peniles lose AI power for getting access to the sticky satchel, you know which squads can throw it and which ones you can bumrush, Dank Hunter Sections are doctrinal. You give up things to get them, while Panzerfaust access is guarenteed by just teching up, making it more ubiquitious.
If you get a tank into a position to be snared I don't see why Ninja Panzer Tactician Smoke should save you.
10 Aug 2018, 01:36 AM
#7
Posts: 5279
If the Faust was to be uneffected it would need to be lost when volks upgrade to STGs because it is easily the most plentiful and least... All drawbacked? Snare in the game (durable core infantry with no side costs or hoops that doesn't need anything at all but playing to get but also on infantry designed for mobility and attack move and blob potential?) it would at least give a reason to maybe not brainless auto upgrade every squad...
#stalinwept
10 Aug 2018, 07:59 AM
#8
Posts: 518
If the Faust was to be uneffected it would need to be lost when volks upgrade to STGs
Other fractions don't have this either so no. Also this would mean that you would either have to do without snare as OKW or see your troops dying
it is easily the most plentiful and least... All drawbacked? Snare in the game
Least drawbacked? As far as I know only Panzerfaust is bugged (and satchel when you throw it at Sdkfz 250)and it can not be used throught smoke and neither do you have somthing like the "Uraa" ability for your infantry. What other drawbacks for snares are there ?
durable core infantry with no side costs or hoops that doesn't need anything at all but playing
More sounds like USF snare.
And the side tech costs for allies are compensated by a higher tech up prize for Axis.
So yea... In my opinion no snare should be useable throught smoke.
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
Playing with randoms
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
10 Aug 2018, 16:57 PM
#9
Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2
Other fractions don't have this either so no. Also this would mean that you would either have to do without snare as OKW or see your troops dying
"Penal Battalions are losing their Anti-tank "sticky" satchel on squads not upgraded with the PTRS package to increase the number of counters that can be fielded and to create a stronger trade-off between anti-infantry and anti-tank. The unit will also now take longer to reach its full potential through veterancy to match their combat performance."
"RPG-40 Anti-Tank Grenade Assault
Replaces RPG-43 Anti-Tank Grenade when Conscript PTRS package is upgraded
Aim-time from 2 to 1.375
Wind-up from 0.25 to 0.125
Range from 15 to 18
Damage from 80 to 50
Penetration from 100 to 150
Causes engine damage at 75% health
Can be avoided if out of range before the grenades are thrown; grenades will home onto targets when tossed"
Least drawbacked? As far as I know only Panzerfaust is bugged (and satchel when you throw it at Sdkfz 250)and it can not be used throught smoke and neither do you have somthing like the "Uraa" ability for your infantry. What other drawbacks for snares are there ?
Gammon bomb: high damage, no homing, guaranteed pen and small range 5/12. 0.26 rdy + aim and 0.25/0.75 wind up/down.
Critical shot (sniper): vet1 and i'm not sure if it's a engine snare on all or if in any vehicle.
Heat nade (AT IS): 0-20 range. 100 pen across board. Rdy+aim 1-2 and 0.25/0.75 wnd. 100/80 dmg
Volks Faust: 150/140/130. 0-20 range. 100/80 dmg. 0.26 rdy+aim and 1.53/1.2 wnd
Gren/Falls Faust: 160/150/140. 0-30 range. 100/45 dmg equal rdy+aim and wind as Volks.
PF AT nade: equal to AT IS heat nade but with 0-30 range. 2.13 rdy+aim and 0/0.75 wnd.
Rifles At nade: vet1. equal to PF. Note: IIRC all related flying life time on snares had been fixed.
Osstruppen = Gren faust
Conscripts/Partisans: same as PF with 0-20 range. 0.26 rdy+aim and 0.125/0.75 wnd.
Penal with PTRS: 0-10 homing. 340 dmg guaranteed pen. 0.26 n 0.75/0.75
Conscript assault nade: 50/40 dmg. 150 pen across board. 0/50 range. 0.26-2.76 rdy+aim and 0.125/0.75 wnd.
Now, for even more fringe cases AKA "YEAH CONSISTENCY".
I cut down this part cause it was a mess. Some nades have no AoE drop off, some have lethal FF radius. Someone will have to test it, but can you target AT nades (assault AT nades, AT nades, Faust) to neutral buildings/garrisonable emplacements ? And if so, how much damage it does against squad garrisoned in.
My controls weren't working
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And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
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And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
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And if it is, you only care about winning.
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10 Aug 2018, 18:56 PM
#10
Posts: 518
"Penal Battalions are losing their Anti-tank "sticky" satchel on squads not upgraded with the PTRS package to increase the number of counters that can be fielded and to create a stronger trade-off between anti-infantry and anti-tank. The unit will also now take longer to reach its full potential through veterancy to match their combat performance."
"RPG-40 Anti-Tank Grenade Assault
Replaces RPG-43 Anti-Tank Grenade when Conscript PTRS package is upgraded
What about PPsh 41 Concripts or BAR Rifles?
And thanks for the stats (are they still accurate and what does "wnd" stand for?)
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
Playing with randoms
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
10 Aug 2018, 19:40 PM
#11
Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2
What about PPsh 41 Concripts or BAR Rifles?
And thanks for the stats (are they still accurate and what does "wnd" stand for?)
Stats from Cruzz dps charts.
Wnd stands for wind up/down.
You said other factions "don't have this either" or which are the drawbacks from other snares. I just gave you, i think, the full panorama.
Whether that merits Volks snare to change or not is up to people interpretations (i think the current status quou is fine).
Cons PPSH: requires teching and is inferior stat wise.
Bar Rifles: requires vet and is inferior stat wise.
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
10 Aug 2018, 20:49 PM
#12
Posts: 518
Cons PPSH: requires teching and is inferior stat wise.
Bar Rifles: requires vet and is inferior stat wise.
A bad snare is still better than no snare at all (and as far as I know the Tier-Up prizes for axis are meant to compensate allies teching)
You said other factions "don't have this either" or which are the drawbacks from other snares. I just gave you, i think, the full panorama.
With the "don't have this either" I was referring to the loss of snares when upgrading SMGs, Submachine guns etc.
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
Playing with randoms
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
10 Aug 2018, 21:42 PM
#13
Posts: 711
...and neither do you have somthing like the "Uraa" ability for your infantry.
IIRC if you choose doctrine with g43 and stealth suits, your infantry get sprint ability. Also OKW falshs doctrine have copy of ability "For Mother Russia" with increased accuracy and instant sprint.
11 Aug 2018, 00:38 AM
#14
Posts: 573
They are usable through smoke because otherwise Panzer Tactician will become even more broken than it currently is.
/thread
/thread
11 Aug 2018, 06:15 AM
#15
Posts: 518
IIRC if you choose doctrine with g43 and stealth suits, your infantry get sprint ability. Also OKW falshs doctrine have copy of ability "For Mother Russia" with increased accuracy and instant sprint.
Was talking about non Doctrinal abilities. If we count doctrinal abilities in then even Penals can sprint.
They are usable through smoke because otherwise Panzer Tactician will become even more broken than it currently is.
/thread
So Allies having a "out of jail card" is fine but Axis not ?
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
Playing with randoms
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
11 Aug 2018, 06:58 AM
#16
Posts: 518
Gammon bomb: high damage, no homing, guaranteed pen and small range 5/12. 0.26 rdy + aim and 0.25/0.75 wind up/down.
Critical shot (sniper): vet1 and i'm not sure if it's a engine snare on all or if in any vehicle.
Heat nade (AT IS): 0-20 range. 100 pen across board. Rdy+aim 1-2 and 0.25/0.75 wnd. 100/80 dmg
Volks Faust: 150/140/130. 0-20 range. 100/80 dmg. 0.26 rdy+aim and 1.53/1.2 wnd
Gren/Falls Faust: 160/150/140. 0-30 range. 100/45 dmg equal rdy+aim and wind as Volks.
PF AT nade: equal to AT IS heat nade but with 0-30 range. 2.13 rdy+aim and 0/0.75 wnd.
Rifles At nade: vet1. equal to PF. Note: IIRC all related flying life time on snares had been fixed.
Osstruppen = Gren faust
Conscripts/Partisans: same as PF with 0-20 range. 0.26 rdy+aim and 0.125/0.75 wnd.
Penal with PTRS: 0-10 homing. 340 dmg guaranteed pen. 0.26 n 0.75/0.75
Conscript assault nade: 50/40 dmg. 150 pen across board. 0/50 range. 0.26-2.76 rdy+aim and 0.125/0.75 wnd.
Now, for even more fringe cases AKA "YEAH CONSISTENCY".
I cut down this part cause it was a mess. Some nades have no AoE drop off, some have lethal FF radius. Someone will have to test it, but can you target AT nades (assault AT nades, AT nades, Faust) to neutral buildings/garrisonable emplacements ? And if so, how much damage it does against squad garrisoned in.
I just tested the different snares in game and it seems like the range datas are incorrect. Rifles AT nade has no 30 range, Grens 30 range seems unlikly too (it is only a bit more than Volks one (maybe 25?)) and 18 range for RPG 40 also seems wrong (should be higher).
I can show some screenshots if you want.
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
Playing with randoms
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
11 Aug 2018, 07:26 AM
#17
Posts: 3166 | Subs: 6
They are usable through smoke because otherwise Panzer Tactician will become even more broken than it currently is.
/thread
And this doesn't apply to Allied smoke, why exactly?
I see no reason why Allied snares should work through smoke while Axis snares do not. The Panzerfaust does not have any significant advantages to justify this. Either all snares should work through smoke or none of them should.
11 Aug 2018, 08:43 AM
#18
Posts: 573
What ally smoke? Soviets do no have smoke at all. USF only has Sherman smoke and that can hardly be used as getaway tool. Brits have ninja smoke on their armored car but thats it.
Meanwhile entire ostheer roster has it, plus camo and smoke on lots of OKW vehicles
Meanwhile entire ostheer roster has it, plus camo and smoke on lots of OKW vehicles
11 Aug 2018, 09:16 AM
#19
Posts: 518
What ally smoke? Soviets do no have smoke at all. USF only has Sherman smoke and that can hardly be used as getaway tool. Brits have ninja smoke on their armored car but thats it.
Meanwhile entire ostheer roster has it, plus camo and smoke on lots of OKW vehicles
Smoke on lots of OKW vehicles ? Puma, Flaktruck and ?
And entire UKF has smoke too (with the "Vehicle Crew Repairs" ability and even without this ability Cromwell,Valentine,Churchill and Comet can use smoke ). And it is not only about Panzertactician. Russian AT nades can also be used through Smoke barriers of Planes (and maybe mortar ones too, didn't test it yet) while Panzerfaust can't.
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
Playing with randoms
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
11 Aug 2018, 09:50 AM
#20
Posts: 3260
It may be worth actually confirming if this even can be changed before spending several pages arguing about it. It might just be another symptom of the buggy panzerfaust animation.
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