Ranger Should Use M1Garand instead M1Carbine ?

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2018, 10:47 AMaerafield

I really dont know why this would make Rangers more viable and more used in automatch. Rangers have 3 weapon slots, means they have only 2 Garands/Carbines in this case. And with the thompson upgrade it's 1. And if you use rangers without a weapon upgrade... well, then you have done a really bad investment.

Almost nobody uses rangers because they are very expensive and USF doesnt need them. With BAR riflemen you have an equally powerful and cheaper unit that arrives much earlier and has a snare as well.

Your biggest concern as USF player usually is surviving tank rushes from your opponent cuz AT gun and zooks are not very reliable vs p4, panther etc. And Rangers dont help at all with this.

What MIGHT actually be a good idea tho is giving a non-tech smoke grenade to rangers now where rifles got them removed.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2018, 17:28 PMwandererraven

about 3 slot weapon if use Thompson with another Support weapon like Bar and
zook it have A risk to drop when he die (33%) at soldier to carry this
unlike other infantry drop at last man squad
....

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2018, 18:43 PMVipper

That is incorrect the drop mechanism does not work that way. When an entity carrying a drop-able weapon dies the game moves the weapon to an empty slot if there is one available. If there is not available roll a dice to check if the weapon will drop or not.

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2018, 19:24 PMGI John 412

https://www.coh2.org/topic/70319/us-carbine-caliber-30-m1

Please read my previous thread and poll on this same topic.

My thread is a little bit broader in scope, but covers the same material and might be useful to you.

Ranger Role now it Assault troop and have addition choice upgrade 4 Thompson for boostup Close Dps or use BAR for boost up Close and mid DPS
if change to garand not problem now

Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2018, 02:36 AMwandererraven

USF Assault Troop is not work in 1v1 GCS2 For now

Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2018, 04:47 AMGI John 412

If GCS 2 is a good indicator of game balance, which I think it is (if the best players in the world aren’t a good indicator of how to play the game then I don’t know what is!)

Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2018, 06:29 AMSander93

We've already established that it isn't: due to low sample size, biased data and because of the difference in balance between 1v1s and team games.

Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2018, 06:29 AMSander93

USF and UKF generally perform fine in the corridor maps of team games.

Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2018, 06:48 AMSkysTheLimit

Are you the collective consciousness of the forum? Who the heck is "we", and if you think gcs data doesn't hint at anything, you must have a really high threshold for the amount of data/info needed to make a claim...

Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2018, 09:34 AMSander93

I see you happened to miss the entire thread about the GCS2 statistics in which it was ultimately agreed upon by a majority (including AE) that these stats can only give a vague indication of strengths at best but the data wasn't anywhere near being solid scientific evidence to prove anything.

Jump back to quoted post19 Jul 2018, 19:29 PMmondeogaming1

i would like to see rangers having smoke

Jump back to quoted post18 Jul 2018, 09:55 AMwandererraven

After I Read This Topic
I see no Ranger use in 1v1
After that I read DevM's Guide
He tell about Ranger Ineffective Non-Urban map (1-1 Map pool have often open field map )
I try to find problem and see with M1 Carbine and Thompson is Mid-Close weapon is got Ranger Assault Role only
when Paratrooper have Flexible By use M1919A6 Or Thompson
And I think idea Use Double M1919A6 is chance to OP Problem
solution Form now I suggest Replace M1 Garand For Flexible situation open field with Garand and can CQC when use Thompson

And IF You agree My suggestion I have extra Question
Ranger Garand shall use Riflemen Profile (accuracy 0.518/0.667/0.713 With 8 damage)
or Better dps By Accuracy buff or Damage buff or Both ?