The MG42 needs to be looked, the allies mg's are dog shit.
23 Jun 2018, 05:38 AM
#21
Posts: 2066
Sure. Then buff grens early game. If not, leave mg42 as it is.
Kappa
23 Jun 2018, 11:13 AM
#22
Posts: 1217
Are we playing the same game?
Maxim cancer is meta. And it's breaking the game. Good luck wiping 6 men weapon crews.
Maxim cancer is meta. And it's breaking the game. Good luck wiping 6 men weapon crews.
23 Jun 2018, 15:26 PM
#23
Posts: 503 | Subs: 1
One of the Axis units is better than the Allied counterparts. Game is broken.
We've all seen this post before - it'll basically never stop coming back.
I'm willing to bet that even when all 5 factions have exactly the same units with exactly the same stats, there'll still be people complaining. We could be playing Soviet mirror matches and this dragonul dude would still find something to whine about.
"My conscripts are underpowered, your conscripts are overperforming, it's obviously imbalanced!"
We've all seen this post before - it'll basically never stop coming back.
I'm willing to bet that even when all 5 factions have exactly the same units with exactly the same stats, there'll still be people complaining. We could be playing Soviet mirror matches and this dragonul dude would still find something to whine about.
"My conscripts are underpowered, your conscripts are overperforming, it's obviously imbalanced!"
23 Jun 2018, 16:18 PM
#24
Posts: 587
Eh, mg42 probably is too good but that's one of those things that are balanced with early game grens being weak.
Not a fan of that sort of balance.
Not a fan of that sort of balance.
Being bad at the game isn't something balance patches can fix.
24 Jun 2018, 01:31 AM
#25
Posts: 3423 | Subs: 1
Are we playing the same game?
Maxim cancer is meta. And it's breaking the game.
I gotta ask you the same question. Are you like 10 patches behind? Get a 222 or a luchs, bye bye maxim spam.
24 Jun 2018, 09:04 AM
#26
Posts: 2458 | Subs: 1
I gotta ask you the same question. Are you like 10 patches behind? Get a 222 or a luchs, bye bye maxim spam.
Neither is particularly effective vs Cons and Soviet T2. Zis and Conscript AT nades say hi.
24 Jun 2018, 09:59 AM
#27
Posts: 587
Neither is particularly effective vs Cons and Soviet T2. Zis and Conscript AT nades say hi.
Or guards. There is nothing they can't do.
Being bad at the game isn't something balance patches can fix.
24 Jun 2018, 16:07 PM
#28
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Neither is particularly effective vs Cons and Soviet T2. Zis and Conscript AT nades say hi.
Do grens and volks not have snares? If their "spamming" maxims they will not have too many cons. Would love to see a replay of a recent maxim spam used against you
24 Jun 2018, 16:36 PM
#29
Posts: 587
Do grens and volks not have snares? If their "spamming" maxims they will not have too many cons. Would love to see a replay of a recent maxim spam used against you
Got one better:
Zarok
Being bad at the game isn't something balance patches can fix.
24 Jun 2018, 16:42 PM
#30
Posts: 935
Maxim need to be looked ot at least give it some
damage
All others r ok
damage
All others r ok
24 Jun 2018, 17:26 PM
#31
Posts: 587
Maxim need to be looked ot at least give it some
damage
All others r ok
No.
Being bad at the game isn't something balance patches can fix.
24 Jun 2018, 17:32 PM
#32
Posts: 3423 | Subs: 1
Got one better:
Don't even get why you used that many maxims. Feels like you could've won just fine with a few less mgs and a few more cons...
24 Jun 2018, 17:51 PM
#33
Posts: 5279
Maxim is "good" because it's annoying. But it's boring as fuck. The 6 man crew make it durable but the death loop take even that away at times. It's strong but it's not good. Any unit that has to be used in groups is not good.
#stalinwept
24 Jun 2018, 17:59 PM
#34
Posts: 3423 | Subs: 1
Any unit that has to be used in groups is not good.
This
24 Jun 2018, 19:27 PM
#35
Posts: 3053
I wouldnt mess too much with machine guns, they are pretty much balanced compared to other things, probably would look at something else. On the other hand tho, maxim vet 1 ability has little utility in my opinion and should be replaced with something more useful, like armor piercing rounds.
+1
Offtopic a little, but one thing I do think needs looking at is how easily the incendiary rounds kill WASP UCs because the WASP is supposed to counter the 42, not the other way around. Yes you can just run away if the mg doesn't fire for more than a second and a half (since you know he is putting AP rounds) but if youdon't immediately do so the UC is lost since it dies in like 1.3 bursts. It might just be an issue with the WASP though. Maybe extend the range on the WASP a little or give it more health.
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25 Jun 2018, 14:06 PM
#36
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OSt is build around crutch MG42 because of glass-cannon gren. My solution: Switch MG42 to OKW (but reduce supression to MG34 level and change price to MG34-level, but give slight increase too damage), give OST MG34 with old MG42 stats/price except nerf supression but therefore give Gren timed supression ability at Vet1 (like Obers but without limit to 1 targeted squad, Medikits only for Pioneers). This would also have the bonus of faction uniqueness + historical accuracy (Ending ahistorical nuisances like late game German army(OKW) using the older MG34, the MG34 being cheaper than the mass-produced/more economical MG42 )
25 Jun 2018, 15:31 PM
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OSt is build around crutch MG42 because of glass-cannon gren. My solution: Switch MG42 to OKW (but reduce supression to MG34 level and change price to MG34-level, but give slight increase too damage), give OST MG34 with old MG42 stats/price except nerf supression but therefore give Gren timed supression ability at Vet1 (like Obers but without limit to 1 targeted squad, Medikits only for Pioneers). This would also have the bonus of faction uniqueness + historical accuracy (Ending ahistorical nuisances like late game German army(OKW) using the older MG34, the MG34 being cheaper than the mass-produced/more economical MG42 )
this is very complicated and if grens only got suppression at vet 1soviet and us would probably destroy OST in the first 3 minutes
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25 Jun 2018, 16:46 PM
#38
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Grens are not glass cannon.
25 Jun 2018, 17:32 PM
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25 Jun 2018, 17:42 PM
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OSt is build around crutch MG42 because of glass-cannon gren. My solution: Switch MG42 to OKW (but reduce supression to MG34 level and change price to MG34-level, but give slight increase too damage), give OST MG34 with old MG42 stats/price except nerf supression but therefore give Gren timed supression ability at Vet1 (like Obers but without limit to 1 targeted squad, Medikits only for Pioneers). This would also have the bonus of faction uniqueness + historical accuracy (Ending ahistorical nuisances like late game German army(OKW) using the older MG34, the MG34 being cheaper than the mass-produced/more economical MG42 )
This basically says, make the MG42 an MG34 except with vickers damage. Just so many issues with this. Ostheer doesn't need damage, they need suppression.
And then make the MG34 with MG42 stats but lower the suppression.....
Then, give gren suppression abilities which would reinforce gren spam.......
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