Since the price of the double Panzerschreck of the Panzergrens of the Ostheer got set down to 100 ammo I think it only seems fair if the Panzerschreck of the SP gets a cost of 50 ammo.
So why exactly does the Panzerschreck of the Sturmpioneers cost 70 ammo ?
Lower the Price of OKW Panzerschreck
31 May 2018, 17:48 PM
#1
Posts: 518
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
Playing with randoms
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
31 May 2018, 17:59 PM
#2
Posts: 3260
It used to belong to the Volksgrenadier at 90 munitions. It got moved to the Sturmpioneer, then it got discounted a bit.
31 May 2018, 18:00 PM
#3
Posts: 464
cuz tier 0 unit?
31 May 2018, 18:00 PM
#4
Posts: 105
+it provides you a warm clothes too.
31 May 2018, 18:11 PM
#5
Posts: 518
+it provides you a warm clothes too.
Which isn't usefull anymore since ColdTech got removed
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
Playing with randoms
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
31 May 2018, 22:00 PM
#6
Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2
Bundles always cost less than singular option.
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
31 May 2018, 22:23 PM
#7
Posts: 518
Bundles always cost less than singular option.
Don't piat and zook also cost 50 ammo ?
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
Playing with randoms
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
I don't play this version of EZ mode very often because it's so boringly simple. But it is funny to see the Axis circle jerk with people complaining that the one faction with every crutch in the book is some how underpowered lol.
The idea that the Jackson needed ANY nerfing is so laughable. It only serves ONE task, how dare it be good at that. If it were a good against infantry like the Panther, King Tiger, Panzer IV, Jagtiger, Elefant, I could see how it might be a problem and need a nerf but it's not
Haha the votes on this alone show the euro synphatheizers feel they just deserve to win. Anytime an okw nerf is brought up. Brain dead faction that skilless people can play and i refuse to play because of it.
u deserve to lose if u don't have an Ele when there's an ISU.
Just stay out of topics u have no knowledge of, Latch.
Ranked, I only play USF. Wouldn't be caught dead playing Nazis with some sort of record being taken
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you, and wouldn't be surprised to be hit again, but I'm fed up with this bullshit and honestly, the sole fact that I'm not permad is what keeps me here having discussions about the game I like and yes, I do question myself why I still go back here to this free range insane asylum so often.
I've talked with mods enough times, I know when I'm going overboard, I usually limit myself, but there is only so much tolerance I have for entitled, ignorant fucks like you
31 May 2018, 22:54 PM
#8
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
Don't piat and zook also cost 50 ammo ?
Do you have to buy 2 at a time?
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
1 Jun 2018, 00:01 AM
#9
Posts: 495 | Subs: 1
I think reducing it to 50 or 60 munitions would be a fairly harmless buff. It’s not easily spammed like Volks Shreks were, so a cost reduction isn’t completely crazy.
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1 Jun 2018, 03:08 AM
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Shrek does 50% more damage than bazooka, costs 40% more. Seems like a fair deal to me
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1 Jun 2018, 06:02 AM
#11
Posts: 769 | Subs: 1
Shrek does 50% more damage than bazooka, costs 40% more. Seems like a fair deal to me
Of course, bazookas can fire in a timely manner, hit their target, and be doubled up. Such phenomenons I have not witnessed on the sturm schreks
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1 Jun 2018, 06:50 AM
#12
Posts: 626 | Subs: 1
For me big issue is that when i get shreck i don't have a sweepers on my sturmpios. As we all know mines win games. Plus squad itself isn't really cheap so this makes upgrade rarely used (mostly vs USF).
1 Jun 2018, 08:12 AM
#13
Posts: 1605 | Subs: 1
+it provides you a warm clothes too.
Warm clothes OP, Relic nurf plz cuz historical accuracy hurr durr
1 Jun 2018, 08:16 AM
#14
Posts: 2243
panzerschrecks doesnt schreck anymore msince they cant hit on mid and far range...the have such bad accuracy...like a p4 on the move to hit a moving target (ALL TANKS Should have such bad accu while moving..)
1 Jun 2018, 23:46 PM
#15
Posts: 5279
Of course, bazookas can fire in a timely manner, hit their target, and be doubled up. Such phenomenons I have not witnessed on the sturm schreks
Iirc Shreks are more accurate than zooks. Also when's the last time you saw a Shrek bounce?
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1 Jun 2018, 23:51 PM
#16
Posts: 521
OKW is powerful enough as it is, I don't think any buffs are necessary.
2 Jun 2018, 01:04 AM
#17
Posts: 911
Iirc Shreks are more accurate than zooks. Also when's the last time you saw a Shrek bounce?
Shreks have an accuracy of 0.069/0.052/0.028
Bazookas have: 0.063/0.048/0.034
Also Rear Echelons get a 20% accuracy boost at vet 1, Sturmpios get a 20% boost at vet 4, which makes bazookas be perceived as more accurate.
OT I think the 90 muni cost is fine, but the only thing that is imbalanced is that RE and royal engineers can still get sweepers and AT while Sturmpios cannot, despite being more costly.
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2 Jun 2018, 02:23 AM
#18
Posts: 769 | Subs: 1
Iirc Shreks are more accurate than zooks. Also when's the last time you saw a Shrek bounce?
To avoid being overpowered against light vehicles in the early game, the sturm schrek was given poor far accuracy, as I recall. Unfortunately, light vehicles are the only reason I would ever build one.
Every time you tell them to shoot they do some sort of dance (a squad AI bug maybe?). By the time they're ready, the vehicle is out of range or it's running into the squad so they can't do anything. And at one shreck per 300MP 4-man squad, they're useless against real armour since schreks do far less damage than AT guns. Who is ever going to build more than two of these squads? Anti-inf loss aside, if you do engage, the time it takes to actually threaten a tank means you can easily lose a large amount manpower. There's a reason Pgrens get two of them.
By comparison, bazookas shoot almost as soon as you tell them to and can be equipped twice on every unit in your army. That means that even with bounces, they do real and relatively consistent damage. At the very least,a few zooks will make a medium tank back up.
Double schreks or just some new tank hunter squad would go a long way in my opinion.
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2 Jun 2018, 16:14 PM
#19
Posts: 5279
I think that if aim time was adjusted an increased accuracy value would be nice. It's pond trash when they miss but also garbage when they snap shot from buildings and what not. This would of course push them to a more defensive role but really I think that's a better place for them...
Sturms could have the quicker aim time just because of the higher risk and capped reward because of bleed and a single Shrek.
Also was the accuracy nerfed? I recall haveing a discussion a bit back with @vipper that had the Shrek slightly more accurate?
Sturms could have the quicker aim time just because of the higher risk and capped reward because of bleed and a single Shrek.
Also was the accuracy nerfed? I recall haveing a discussion a bit back with @vipper that had the Shrek slightly more accurate?
#stalinwept
2 Jun 2018, 16:17 PM
#20
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
Accuracy was not nerfed recently.
It was nerfed ages ago, because shrecks were OP against light vehicles and could alpha strike them all the time.
It was nerfed ages ago, because shrecks were OP against light vehicles and could alpha strike them all the time.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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