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Besides SC2 and Warcraft 3, which other are these "multiple" RTS games that do both?
nline when it was still alive(no gear stats mode).Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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you cant read/ understand what you read. I asked you what you get with other faction for the price from a bofors...one thing you could buy: a 222. You was the guy which tried to make a comparison
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hmmm... in that topic. werent we talking about units aa work? in that topic, it looks like >^< is the fact. bofors can't do aa work so 222 wins the aa part.
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not really..when you would please read the first post in this tread....
WHat do you mean was my tread where i said that german AA units are weak. And yes..bofors was the worst from all.
But its much more effectiv against land units...you will need so much mirco and manpower to deal with it against a good player....even more in teamgaes...who one def and and push your attacks away and make it impossible to stay 1min and bomb with mortars..
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For most people balance doesn´t matter anyways because of how matchmaking works.
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Every single C&C title with exception of first.
Halo Wars(yeah, I know, a stretch, but still).
Whole homeworld series(Desserts of Kharak included).
AoE
Supreme Commander 2(don't know much about 1).
CoH1 to an extend(plenty of cheeze, but there are ways to counter it all).
Now, try not to lose your shit here:
DoW3 last balance patch.
nline but since it's no longer working...
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Every single C&C title with exception of first.
Halo Wars(yeah, I know, a stretch, but still).
Whole homeworld series(Desserts of Kharak included).
AoE
Supreme Commander 2(don't know much about 1).
CoH1 to an extend(plenty of cheeze, but there are ways to counter it all).
Now, try not to lose your shit here:
DoW3 last balance patch.
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It's funny because he's true. Almost every british emplacement will be forced to brace from 1 fire nade and finished off with a mortar.
It's laughably easy to do, and even if you go for commandos to snipe the mortars, they'll just safe retreat and do it again. Except you're still under pressure to get the mid VP back
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| The COH2 System Performance Guide | The COH2 FAQ |
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I'll admit I don't see bofors often, but all my memories are of them wiping my infantry, even if I instantly retreated.
I just tried cheatmod though, and it definitely struggled to stop a single squad from approaching, let alone 2. It could perhaps stand to have flak halftrack levels of suppression.
That said, I detest British emplacement design so much I'm fairly happy to pretend that faction was never released.
Also, as a side note, the difference between balancing asymmetric factions in COH2 compared to other RTS games is RNG. COH2 is designed around it (to a very complex degree) to provide a rich micro strategy, while in most RTS games you can easily tell with a high level of certainty which unit will defeat which.
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Well emplacement by design are not supposed to be fun to play against. Where is the fun in the enemy being able to hold without a micro tax. Where's the fun in "ahah I've got you now... Oh wait you clicked a button and now I need literally 4x the damage" where's the fun in Sim city? By design its not fun because it dilutes all the important parts of the game that make it fun- there's no dynamic engagements, no risky trades to gain ground....
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Just because you don't like a certain Army doesn't mean that it shouldn't be fun and brought to other Armies' levels.
As a side note to your side note, CoH has more RNG involved, CoH2 has less of it due to the competitive community's complaints.
| The COH2 System Performance Guide | The COH2 FAQ |
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on top of this point: the emplacements are the units which need the most micro for the enemy to destroy it when you look at the cost.. no other units with the same costs lvl, would need that much micro for the enemy to destroy it.
thats the bullshit. show me other 400mp or 30 fuel units which need nearly that micro do destroy it
in hands of a good player...they are harder to destroy than mostly every tanks like p4, panther or other tanks.
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try it...the counter barrage will bleed your mortar/ ISG heavy. and dont forget..which noob brit sit back and look how you shot on it? and which teammate will sit back and do nothing?
on a 2v2 there is somebody who push the front..while you as brit can sit back and def the frontline with ease and so less micro...
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Looks like your highest rank is 1000+ in 2v2 which quite frankly is potato territory. It is easy to see why you would become frustrated by something that is very easy to counter if you know what you are doing.
Besides, my first suggestion (the one I prefer) wouldn't even change how difficult it is to kill/how much damage it does. Brits are the only faction in the game that must pay 100 fuel to counter air units. It doesn't make sense to build a centaur late game and a bofors should serve as a viable alternative.
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it only looks like this because i didnt play 2v2 the last time.
in reality i play 2v2 in a rank around 300. (when i play)
and you try to say us centaur is bad at mid/late game...which is completly wrong..it snipes infntery like no other tank at this price...didn u look the 2v2 tournements? there was often fights where the centaur attack frontaly a pak40 and kill all models while the pak could only shot one times.
it is not bad like the ostwind,..which visuall make splash dmg...but...only hurt the healts..not kill models.
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Lol, I never said it was bad at mid/late game. It still does an excellent job vs infantry at all stages. I will even admit that the centaur is too good right now, but it's a crutch. All other british tanks have been overnerfed and the only one possibly in a good spot right now is the churchhill. Against a late game composition of vet stug/panther/jp4 the centaur is often more of a liability than its worth.
The ostwind underperforming has nothing to do with the centaur or the bofors so I don't see how its relevant.
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