Today I have set up a new PC.
Here are the Specs:
GTX 1060 3gb
Intel I5 7400 4 cores @ 3.0/3.5Ghz
8GB RAM
Although I realise these specs are modest, I did not expect an average of 14FPS from the performance test. I ran it with auto-detected low/minimal settings in 1920x1080p. This is significantly worse than my old 2010 rig with: HD5850 1 GB, AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.40 Ghz, and 4GB RAM.
I am unsure why I am getting such abysmal performance. Could the game be using the Intel intergrated HD Graphics instead of the GTX 1060 ? Is it a Direct X issue ? I have already downloaded the latest drivers from the GeForce experience suite.
I bought this PC to mainly run my favourite game, COH2. I would be very grateful for any advice on this matter.
Thank you
New PC, 14 FPS Average
11 Feb 2018, 00:41 AM
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11 Feb 2018, 01:02 AM
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8gbs is not enough for the game if you try to use high settings and it may be the couse. Antialiasing is also a huge hit to performance. Set it to low or none to get better results. If feel you still want the quality that antialiasing provides, rather turn it on in your graphic card settings than in game as the options provided in game are suboptimal performance wise.
EDIT: I did not read that you were using low settings. If that is the case then there must be something wrong with your hardware. Check the temperatures and stress your new rigs with some actual benchmarks to see if it still gets worse results than your old PC. If it does then its either some other process taking all the power or some hardware issue like: overheating, power source problems (power supply or bad connections) or simply faulty components.
As for the build in graphix, yes it is possible but only if you are using the build in one in the desktop. I guess its is the first place where you should check. It happens that if your GPU breaks the build in replaces it even transfering the image using ports on the broken GPU board.
EDIT: I did not read that you were using low settings. If that is the case then there must be something wrong with your hardware. Check the temperatures and stress your new rigs with some actual benchmarks to see if it still gets worse results than your old PC. If it does then its either some other process taking all the power or some hardware issue like: overheating, power source problems (power supply or bad connections) or simply faulty components.
As for the build in graphix, yes it is possible but only if you are using the build in one in the desktop. I guess its is the first place where you should check. It happens that if your GPU breaks the build in replaces it even transfering the image using ports on the broken GPU board.
11 Feb 2018, 01:11 AM
#3
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I was getting poor FPS due to heat related issues. Heatsink and thermal paste were inadequate.
I've run the game on a 650ti / 3570k / 8gb. Had to restart every couple of games to be safe but it was perfectly playable.
You can run 'dxdiag' and click on the display tab to see what device is being used as far as the integrated or Nvidia card.
I've run the game on a 650ti / 3570k / 8gb. Had to restart every couple of games to be safe but it was perfectly playable.
You can run 'dxdiag' and click on the display tab to see what device is being used as far as the integrated or Nvidia card.
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11 Feb 2018, 02:06 AM
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Although I realise these specs are modest, I did not expect an average of 14FPS from the performance test.
The benchmark tool in COH2 is old and broken. Ignore it.
Turn on the fps display in Steam and play a 1v1 match for your actual fps. You should start with well over 60fps. If it's still bad, let us know.
Steam -> Settings -> In-Game-> In-game FPS counter
Or you can use FRAPS for averages and stuff. It will go down as the match progresses though. No hardware can overcome the poorly coded engine.
Some of my COH2 Guides:
| The COH2 System Performance Guide | The COH2 FAQ |
11 Feb 2018, 04:05 AM
#5
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It might also be worth checking the obvious - are you sure you didn't plug your monitor into the motherboard by accident? I've done it before and for the longest time wondered why I wasn't getting max graphics.
11 Feb 2018, 05:58 AM
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I have detailed in another post, but I play on a 32" TV and the video card detected it as a TV and defaulted COH2 to a refresh rate of 24 HZ. It was unplayable. So 14 FPS sounds about right for a benchmark for that situation.
I have a 1060 3GB in an i7 3770 w/8 GB Ram and measure @ 60HZ:
Vsync on: avg 53 Peak 60
Vsync off: avg 63 Peak 94
Everything set to high or highest except AA set to Low.
I have a 1060 3GB in an i7 3770 w/8 GB Ram and measure @ 60HZ:
Vsync on: avg 53 Peak 60
Vsync off: avg 63 Peak 94
Everything set to high or highest except AA set to Low.
11 Feb 2018, 07:17 AM
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Well this is going to sound stupid.
Make sure the cable that is plugged into your monitor is in your GPU. If it is plugged into your motherboard you will be using the integrated graphics.
If not try and get the latest drivers and see what that does.
Make sure the cable that is plugged into your monitor is in your GPU. If it is plugged into your motherboard you will be using the integrated graphics.
If not try and get the latest drivers and see what that does.
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11 Feb 2018, 10:33 AM
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Just ran a DXDIAG. Intel HD Graphics 630 is the first thing detected as a display device. The 1060 is listed below it.
When I switched to big picture mode in the steam client it listed Intel(R) HD Graphics 630 as the display device, when I upped the resolution for big picture mode it warned me against it saying I only had 128MB VRAM !
How can I be sure that the game at least is using the 1060 rather than the Intel(R) HD Graphics 630 ?
From Steam:
Video Card:
Driver: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB
DirectX Driver Name: igdumdim32.dll
Driver Version: 23.21.13.9077
DirectX Driver Version: 21.20.16.4839
Driver Date: 1 23 2018
OpenGL Version: 4.4
Desktop Color Depth: 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Refresh Rate: 59 Hz
DirectX Card: Intel(R) HD Graphics 630
VendorID: 0x8086
DeviceID: 0x5912
Revision: 0x4
Number of Monitors: 1
Number of Logical Video Cards: 1
No SLI or Crossfire Detected
Primary Display Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Desktop Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Primary Display Size: 20.87" x 11.81" (23.98" diag)
53.0cm x 30.0cm (60.9cm diag)
Primary Bus Type Not Detected
Primary VRAM: -1024 MB
Supported MSAA Modes: 2x 4x 8x 16x
When I switched to big picture mode in the steam client it listed Intel(R) HD Graphics 630 as the display device, when I upped the resolution for big picture mode it warned me against it saying I only had 128MB VRAM !
How can I be sure that the game at least is using the 1060 rather than the Intel(R) HD Graphics 630 ?
From Steam:
Video Card:
Driver: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB
DirectX Driver Name: igdumdim32.dll
Driver Version: 23.21.13.9077
DirectX Driver Version: 21.20.16.4839
Driver Date: 1 23 2018
OpenGL Version: 4.4
Desktop Color Depth: 32 bits per pixel
Monitor Refresh Rate: 59 Hz
DirectX Card: Intel(R) HD Graphics 630
VendorID: 0x8086
DeviceID: 0x5912
Revision: 0x4
Number of Monitors: 1
Number of Logical Video Cards: 1
No SLI or Crossfire Detected
Primary Display Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Desktop Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Primary Display Size: 20.87" x 11.81" (23.98" diag)
53.0cm x 30.0cm (60.9cm diag)
Primary Bus Type Not Detected
Primary VRAM: -1024 MB
Supported MSAA Modes: 2x 4x 8x 16x
11 Feb 2018, 10:58 AM
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where to put your monitor cable
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11 Feb 2018, 11:10 AM
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Have you got your monitor actually plugged into the 1060, or is it plugged into onboard (the ports near all the usb etc?)
11 Feb 2018, 11:12 AM
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I humbly apologize for my obscene ignorance . It was plugged into the motherboard rather than the GPU. Just got an average of 50FPS on mostly high settings.
11 Feb 2018, 11:31 AM
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I humbly apologize for my obscene ignorance . It was plugged into the motherboard rather than the GPU. Just got an average of 50FPS on mostly high settings.
Thank God you did find out. Have fun man and thanks for the laugh
11 Feb 2018, 11:48 AM
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I humbly apologize for my obscene ignorance . It was plugged into the motherboard rather than the GPU. Just got an average of 50FPS on mostly high settings.
Good to hear! I made the mistake myself once too! Have fun with your new computer!!
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11 Feb 2018, 12:20 PM
#14
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the game still runs like trash for whatever reasons.
11 Feb 2018, 14:43 PM
#15
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*cries in old 2011 gaming laptop and 30 fps*
11 Feb 2018, 18:46 PM
#16
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Happens to the best of us. 
Glad it was an easy fix.
Dxdiag is a fun little thing. You can get a quick glimpse of computer guts if you're ever on one.
Glad it was an easy fix.
Dxdiag is a fun little thing. You can get a quick glimpse of computer guts if you're ever on one.
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12 Feb 2018, 09:41 AM
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where to put your monitor cable
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| The COH2 System Performance Guide | The COH2 FAQ |
13 Feb 2018, 01:31 AM
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I humbly apologize for my obscene ignorance . It was plugged into the motherboard rather than the GPU. Just got an average of 50FPS on mostly high settings.
Don't worry about it, most people have done the same thing before.
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17 Feb 2018, 06:14 AM
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where to put your monitor cable
I wish I'd had a similar guide before my GF left me...
17 Feb 2018, 06:19 AM
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I wish I'd had a similar guide before my GF left me...
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