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Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2017, 14:07 PMOsinyagov

Where i can see the patchnote for DBP 1.2? I have found it in the steam workshop, but haven't find any info about it.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1191687226

Conscripts
Our original changes to Conscript DPS caused an unintended, but significant increase in their DPS around ranges 5-to-15. We are adjusting the values to obtain the intended DPS curve.

- Near range reverted from 10 to 0
- Near accuracy adjusted from 0.7182821 to 0.7572339

Forward Retreat Points (affects all FRPs)
- Penalty changed to +75% reinforcement time per model
- It is now, again, possible to immediately disable the FRP
- 120 second cooldown on re-activating FRP after deactivation remains

Rear Echelon
- Rear echelons cannot use smoke when upgraded to flamethrowers (already in effect since v1.1)


Bugfixes
- Fixed an issue that prevented squads from properly obeying garrisoning commands
- Readjusted pathfinding behaviour for vehicles to avoid suboptimal behaviour around obstacles
- Addressed an issue with Target-Weak-Point and Treadshot abilities, that they were taking too long to fire
- Hammer tracking; partially revert duration from 7 secs to 9.5 secs
- Adjusted Lend-lease Sherman hotkey to avoid overlap
- Fixed an issue where the Jackson would cost more than intended (cost from 145FU to 140FU)

Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2017, 14:42 PMferwiner

Even though I dont agree with them, I understand why so many people opposed against FRP disable cooldown. In lower ranked games concept of soft-retreat may not be known. Still, even if this feature is getting abandoned I think a +75% cost may be too hefty. This is 3 times bigger penalty than before. Did you try the +50% variant somehow?

Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2017, 14:44 PMMr.Smith

It's time per model; not MP per model.

Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2017, 04:48 AMOutsider_Sidaroth

I can't imagine how offended some Axis Lovers would be if the Jackson penetrated their big cats every shot.

Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2017, 14:44 PMMr.Smith

It's time per model; not MP per model.

Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2017, 15:57 PMZombiFrancis

The manpower penalty was abandoned because it was excessive and it affected all units on the map. So having the FRP active meant you paid the penalty in your HQ. (Even stolen halftracks.)

The timer to disable it was the real problem though. I'm glad they changed that.

The increase in time just completely negates the purpose of FRPs, which, I believe, is the intention of the changes to FRPs in the first place.

Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2017, 17:00 PMTheLaGmAn

What about limiting the jadgtiger to 1 per game per player (as the tiger ace), that will fix it for teamgames on which if you manage to spend a lot of resources and effort to kill it, they just insta-call another one because they didnt need to invest the fuel into more units while it was on the field.

Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2017, 17:40 PMZombiFrancis

Maybe true for the Jagdtiger and OKW, but as far as the Elefant is concerned as Ostheer, most of the time I'm stuck at pop cap more than anything by that point.

Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2017, 17:00 PMTheLaGmAn

What about limiting the jadgtiger to 1 per game per player (as the tiger ace), that will fix it for teamgames on which if you manage to spend a lot of resources and effort to kill it, they just insta-call another one because they didnt need to invest the fuel into more units while it was on the field

Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2017, 19:36 PMLuke_512

Would it be possible to have infiltration units stay in the garrison they spawn in instead of having to wait a couple of seconds for them to come out and then another time to send them back in?

Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2017, 16:22 PMferwiner

Well, I hoped that FRPs are going to be redesinged, not made pointless. That is why I was for manpower increase. Still, if it can only be global then it makes little sense.

Jump back to quoted post5 Nov 2017, 20:34 PMMuad'Dib

FRP means a shorter retreat time, meaning squads start reinforcing earlier, plus shorter time back to the field. This will likely more than offset the 75% penalty on most maps, especially if you don't need to reinforce 4 or 5 models at once. Not to mention that the time to heal is sometimes greater than the time to reinforce, and is the limiting factor. I still think FRP will save a lot of time in many situations, hardly pointless - just less effective.

Jump back to quoted post6 Nov 2017, 00:16 AMzerocoh

if you immediatly retreat after encountering an MG you won't be affected since you won't spent much time reinforcing anyway

Jump back to quoted post3 Nov 2017, 19:29 PMDangerous-Cloth

Just to get this straight. You guys adjust OKW panther and Ostheer Panther because they are too spammable. You then increase pop cap, nerf both units hard, and then lower the OKW Panther price which makes the OKW panther more spammable.

Like lol? How is this logical hahahah