Eastern Front Armies Revamp

Jump back to quoted post29 May 2017, 11:02 AMpigsoup

never knew jackson was weak. dont think itll be weak even after this patch.

Jump back to quoted post29 May 2017, 06:30 AMmiragefla

You do know we're working on EFA first, right? Furthermore, Take Aim costs 30 munitions.

Jump back to quoted post29 May 2017, 13:07 PMPanzerGeneralForever

I do. And yes I know it does. I was just responding to someone who thought it should be free. Do you think it should be free?

Jump back to quoted post29 May 2017, 15:56 PMcapiqua

When Soviet Sniper with his observer?

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Jump back to quoted post29 May 2017, 08:03 AMEsxile

How do you make USF atgun more relevant on late game? This is a real question.

On 1vs1 and 2vs2 I already rely a lot on atgun in my games, I think I'm already taking the best from them and I can tell you they are quite powerful when you use them right. The problem is they get OS by anything shooting at them on the late game like any other support weapons. So the only reliable way to make "the rest of the USF AT arsenla" relevant is to make them more durable which is, in my opinion, not really possible unless you decide to use a damage table to nerf any damage they take from any sources.

Jump back to quoted post29 May 2017, 08:03 AMEsxile

Should I also remember that USF doesn't have stock rocket arty. The way Sov/Ost/OKW can clean an area from support weapons isn't available for USF.

Jump back to quoted post29 May 2017, 08:03 AMEsxile

But I'm interested in how the modders will do, and hope they will success in their entreprise.

Jump back to quoted post29 May 2017, 07:38 AMSelvy289

Tried out the new B4 again. Seems fine to me except for one thing, the dam thing takes far too long to fire its second shot (about 8-10 seconds). No sane player will ever keep their units within the area. If it delt full 640 damages, yeah k but now it deals only half original damage, its just to long. Make around 5-6 seconds (just shorter than it is atm).

Jump back to quoted post29 May 2017, 16:49 PMWaegukin

Mr. Smith has already made comments about changing squad spacing for team weapons which would fix the one shots. For raw performance, maybe a tweak to the AP shell's duration or cost so you're more likely to have it when needed and it would be all good. 'Zooks could probably also use a speed/pen rebalancing and hopefully the M20's cost comes down or REs get mines so they have those as well.


Ideally, that would have been the major's job. He's actually not half bad at it now, but the short range makes it really risky to use. Hopefully he'll get a look at in the future, +5-10 range would be absolutely amazing on his arty.


For sure, they've done so much for the game. If it weren't for them, I doubt I'd be playing now. A big thanks to you guys!

Jump back to quoted post29 May 2017, 17:25 PMEsxile

If there is anything sure is we don't want more powerful zook. I don't know how ATgun crew can have more space between them, I can surely see more space is needed and possible for the Raketen and how sometime for HMG squad are clumpy behind cover, but atgun crew not.

Jump back to quoted post29 May 2017, 17:56 PMMaret

IMHO for AA each side must have special unit. And every side have that. I think it woul be good delete all AA abilities from other units. I think it could give good strategic deep. You can counter any air abilities with your AA unit. For OKW Flacktrack will be good if it can shooting from move as other AA units.
SU- M5 with quads
OST - OStwind
OKW - Flacktrack
USF - AAHT
UKF - Centaur

Jump back to quoted post29 May 2017, 01:00 AMPanzerGeneralForever

Throwing this in after balance team calls twp a no brainer. I guess it could be free if it gets half dmg lol

Jump back to quoted post28 May 2017, 19:49 PMMr.Smith

Popcap fixing goes both ways.

In one way, you have popcap abuse. This is only a factor when USF is still in the game by the late-game (rarely).

The other side of the coin is that you have a lot of garbage units that take up more than a quarter of your popcap, without you noticing. Fancy seeing how much popcap officers/ambulance/AAHT/pak howitzers/scotts take for what they give in return for their performance?

This clogs up your popcap and eats your manpower.

Jump back to quoted post29 May 2017, 18:35 PMGrumpy

Well, it has around 130 pen at range, so it somewhat already does half damage.




No argument, but would like to know how you'd go about fixing popcap abuse.

Jump back to quoted post29 May 2017, 19:31 PMcapiqua

The beloved Brummbar has a high speed, to be a tank dedicated to hit the ground. Compared with other Soviet tanks or other non-EFA factions. Although it can be hunted by medium tanks, it is still the fastest tank in its role with a high armor front and back. I suggest down a few decimals their speed_max. This will lower the reliance of putting brummnbar in first line.