Looks like Relic will get back to coh2 DLCs soon.
They can release a good single player for Brits and release the old unseen commanders from old closed betas.
CoH2 vs DoW3 players comparison
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14 May 2017, 16:45 PM
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http://steamcharts.com/cmp/231430,285190#7d
Looks like Relic will get back to coh2 DLCs soon.
They can release a good single player for Brits and release the old unseen commanders from old closed betas.
Looks like Relic will get back to coh2 DLCs soon.
They can release a good single player for Brits and release the old unseen commanders from old closed betas.
COH3 COMPETITIVE SERIES PACK #1
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2961573188&savesuccess=1
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14 May 2017, 16:56 PM
#2
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Give us new content. It´s not hard to create commander with 5 "ability is ready" voicelines 
14 May 2017, 17:03 PM
#3
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Or almost 1:1 transform the vCoH PE faction to CoH2 BabyRage 
There are so many cool PE units that are oddly missing in CoH2 :'(
There are so many cool PE units that are oddly missing in CoH2 :'(
14 May 2017, 17:11 PM
#4
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And updated 3D models for EFA...Dreams 
To good to be truth
To good to be truth
14 May 2017, 17:27 PM
#5
Posts: 493
IMHO, not gonna happen, sadly. What I said elsewhere, in another words: you don't return to ex-girlfriend if your new girlfriend is worse. More efforts to make DoW3 attractive means even less attention to CoH2.
But such fail deserves a thread because it's funny by itself
But such fail deserves a thread because it's funny by itself
mastered mode: 4v3 
drops > mates > rng > pathfinding > ??? > skill
drops > mates > rng > pathfinding > ??? > skill
14 May 2017, 17:45 PM
#6
Posts: 2066
IMHO, not gonna happen, sadly. What I said elsewhere, in another words: you don't return to ex-girlfriend if your new girlfriend is worse. More efforts to make DoW3 attractive means even less attention to CoH2.
But such fail deserves a thread because it's funny by itself
I lol'ed because of your analysis
Kappa
14 May 2017, 18:01 PM
#7
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So you guys are comparing a game that has had multiple sales over it's lifetime and has more content with a game that has less and determining that the game has failed?
14 May 2017, 18:25 PM
#8
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good good...let's send sega a message keep moba elements out of rts and don't cheap out on engine by using unity
14 May 2017, 19:41 PM
#9
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So you guys are comparing a game that has had multiple sales over it's lifetime and has more content with a game that has less and determining that the game has failed?
average DoW3 players on day 1: 25 000
average Dow3 players after 3 weeks: 5 000
~enough?
14 May 2017, 19:55 PM
#10
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average DoW3 players on day 1: 25 000
average Dow3 players after 3 weeks: 5 000
~enough?
people stopped playing after the campaign as happens with every other RTS game?
14 May 2017, 20:31 PM
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It's normal that playerbase decreases after release. Many people play only for a campaign same was with coh2, same with starcraft and it's understandable.
Although 5k for a new game is horrible stat
Although 5k for a new game is horrible stat
14 May 2017, 20:43 PM
#12
Posts: 956
Or almost 1:1 transform the vCoH PE faction to CoH2 BabyRage
There are so many cool PE units that are oddly missing in CoH2 :'(
In your spoiler, you named about nine units and none of them is the Kettenkarnad
#cantbelievemyeyes
#prayforkettenkarnad
"Nice. Very impressive. Now let´s see Paul Allen´s playercard."
14 May 2017, 20:51 PM
#13
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In your spoiler, you named about nine units and none of them is the Kettenkarnad
#cantbelievemyeyes
#prayforkettenkarnad
Damn I missed that one
14 May 2017, 20:53 PM
#14
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I am not exaggerating when I say this. If Relic makes a good Axis campaign DLC right now, It could sell same numbers as DOW3. Even after all this time.
14 May 2017, 21:04 PM
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So you guys are comparing a game that has had multiple sales over it's lifetime and has more content with a game that has less and determining that the game has failed?
You can rewind that graph to see coh2 release stats. It started with less players at realease but it took 5 months to go down to 5k level, not 3 weeks. Then it went high up again becouse of new content and ballance changes. No studio can release new content every 2-4 weeks just to keep game alive - that's why this graph means dow3 is soon to be completely dead.
14 May 2017, 21:36 PM
#16
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You can rewind that graph to see coh2 release stats. It started with less players at realease but it took 5 months to go down to 5k level, not 3 weeks. Then it went high up again becouse of new content and ballance changes. No studio can release new content every 2-4 weeks just to keep game alive - that's why this graph means dow3 is soon to be completely dead.
Company of heroes 2's campaign wasn't as good as Dawn of war 3's in terms of story or having characters. Plenty of people brought the game to see what the story was with the blood ravens after retribution. Going by your logic having a lackluster campaign would be better for relic because it would show better player retention ratios. Dawn of war 3 doesn't seem to have a payable commander system either to keep the meta "fresh".
14 May 2017, 22:03 PM
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Company of heroes 2's campaign wasn't as good as Dawn of war 3's in terms of story or having characters. Plenty of people brought the game to see what the story was with the blood ravens after retribution. Going by your logic having a lackluster campaign would be better for relic because it would show better player retention ratios. Dawn of war 3 doesn't seem to have a payable commander system either to keep the meta "fresh".
If it had such a good campaign then it just screems wasted potential. In modern game, the campaign is there to make people interested in it and keep them playing multiplayer when they finish the campaign. In this case they may have made great campaign but they also made a multiplayer that makes people leave the game after finishing the campaign. This is sure not the effect they wanted to acheive and it is surely showing that more and more players are going to leave the game with time.
14 May 2017, 22:09 PM
#18
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actually, if you look at Starcraft 2, most people don't even touch the MP ladder and prefer play co op or custom maps. Dawn of war 3's biggest problem is that it has started with 1 game mode and nothing like the last stand system. Relic needs to get out more game modes faster.
having 5k people play the game largely for MP is pretty good for an RTS at this time.
having 5k people play the game largely for MP is pretty good for an RTS at this time.
14 May 2017, 22:18 PM
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actually, if you look at Starcraft 2, most people don't even touch the MP ladder and prefer play co op or custom maps. Dawn of war 3's biggest problem is that it has started with 1 game mode and nothing like the last stand system. Relic needs to get out more game modes faster.
having 5k people play the game largely for MP is pretty good for an RTS at this time.
Co-op, custom maps and mods are in fact similar to multiplayer - they create a stable playerbase. In every statement in my last post you can change the word "multiplayer" into "custom maps" and it will be still valid. The problem is not enough stable playerbase after 3 weeks from release.
Of course 5k is a good amount for RTS. It would be amazing amount of players for B class RTS. It is also a great amount of players for over 3 years old game such as CoH2. But it is definitely not a good score for 1st or 2nd most awaited RTS in 2017. This is not a good score for any AAA game just after release.
And here we come to the most sensible conclusion - the DoW3 is a game advertised as AAA, but in fact doesn't live up to this standard. That exactly explains the player drop down and it can be seen on every corner in the game, game streams or reviews.
14 May 2017, 22:28 PM
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Dawn of war 3 doesn't seem to have a payable commander system either to keep the meta "fresh".
My assumption (only having read about it and played the demo level) was that DOW3 would probably have DLC 'elites' in the future. This was only my guess though
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