Soooo... DSHKAS?
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I admit, it's OP. The most lethal MG in the game currently, with instapin and all. But I mean a week ago it was normal lol, I mean anyone could use it or not use it. Just funny how that works. Now it's in every game.
I smell cheese
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The same problem applied to maxim pre patch - even after so many nerfs it was still the best non doctrinal unit soviets had in early game.
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This is the last and only soviet early game unit that hasn't been changed since launch. Everything else has been in almost all cases these have been nerfs. No wonder that the unit is being overused if whole faction around it has been scaled down with time.
The same problem applied to maxim pre patch - even after so many nerfs it was still the best non doctrinal unit soviets had in early game.
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PD: They got CP nerf. They used to come at 0CP.
Amazing how a unit that isn't changed or touch becomes OP because of popularity.
If you remove predators/counters of certain unit, then it becomes easier for that unit to be OP. If you nerf everything into fairness levels, whatever hasn't been changed becomes the new OP popular build.
Ex: if you remove Ele/JT from the game, people will bitch about ISU152 (on HE mode).
Ex2: if you delay faust, people start to cry about M3 clowncar (when in the past it was even worst since you actually didn't have any faust at all).
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PD: They got CP nerf. They used to come at 0CP.
If you remove predators/counters of certain unit, then it becomes easier for that unit to be OP. If you nerf everything into fairness levels, whatever hasn't been changed becomes the new OP popular build.
Ex: if you remove Ele/JT from the game, people will bitch about ISU152 (on HE mode).
Ex2: if you delay faust, people start to cry about M3 clowncar (when in the past it was even worst since you actually didn't have any faust at all).
It used to be 0CP? OpieOP.
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But yes, if anything else, its instapinningsupression and ridicolous damage needs to go. Right now you can charge dusha against the hmg42, wait until you get pinned and then kill hmg42 at poin blank within few seconds. I dont know if I remember it right, but dushka was ninja-buffed some time ago (nobody noticed ) and now it deals ~70 DPS at close range (when not supressed) OpieOP.
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You have to choose and choose it early, often without exactly knowing what your opponent has chosen.
Its an early to mid game gamble.... If your opponent has chosen this you know they wont have decent call ins or artillery for a strong late game.
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Without nerfs to the OKW lategame, their infantry in general and their Wunderwaffe I think additional Soviet nerfs are out of place
But yes, if anything else, its instapinningsupression and ridicolous damage needs to go. Right now you can charge dusha against the hmg42, wait until you get pinned and then kill hmg42 at poin blank within few seconds. I dont know if I remember it right, but dushka was ninja-buffed some time ago (nobody noticed ) and now it deals ~70 DPS at close range (when not supressed) OpieOP.
70 dps? Wow. Just wow. I'm somewhat in awe. Gonna have to go grab me one of these in a teamgame XD
Edit: does that make it a somewhat reliable way to deal with engine damaged light vehicles? Like, could you at nade a luchs a couple of times and set a Dshk loose on it without even using the AP rounds? (Is it reliable with the AP rounds too?)
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before you pour salt everywhere.
You have to choose and choose it early, often without exactly knowing what your opponent has chosen.
Its an early to mid game gamble.... If your opponent has chosen this you know they wont have decent call ins or artillery for a strong late game.
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The general problem here is not the DHSK as a unit (although it is OP and insta pins lol), but rather the Soviet early game as a whole. The maxim nerfs only harshly showed this to us again.
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The general problem here is not the DHSK as a unit (although it is OP and insta pins lol), but rather the Soviet early game as a whole. The maxim nerfs only harshly showed this to us again.
This. The problem is no stock Soviet early unit is worth overinvesting in. Fixed conscripts, less DSHKA and other cheese.
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Honestly though, people are only bitching about DSHK now because it's popular after the Maxim nerf - it's mostly just knee jerk complaining because people are seeing it more now and therefore are attributing it more to their losses. I don't mind it so much because when you steal it you get to have the delicious suppression as OKW
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