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Then they would do more wipes generally surely?
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Only the gammon bomb isn´t random, it wipes every time lol.
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Light gammon bomb needs a little longer timer. Standard gammon bomb and bundle nade are fine IMO, pretty easy to dodge.
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isn't the timer the same on both light gammon and bundled?
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His point probably is that light gammon usually comes from cloak commandos leaving little reaction time.
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isn't the timer the same on both light gammon and bundled?
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Bundle grenade and light gammon bomb are clones except for:
- Fuse timer: LGB = 1sec, BG=1.25sec
- Cost: LGB = 35 Munis, BG = 45 Munis
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light gammon is fine except for the price, both light gammon and bundled need to be 50 or maybe even 65 munitions since they are pretty much support weapons wiper.
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Standard grenades might feel RNG because grenades drop-off and any slight movement will generally affect the AOE, especially when you get to the outer edges.
A USF Grenade goes from 1/0.75/0.25 in terms of damage with an AOE of 4 and a distance of 1/2/3.
Bundles could probably have their damage dropped from 120 to 100 as they still have good AOE distances. Gammon will always be an issue given its on a cloaked squad.
And since when did Axis have no real munition sinks? Soviets are the only one who no real munition sinks unless they go doctrines aside from mine or demo spam and....PTRS spam(?!).
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not to mention that axis have no real munition sinks, so they keep throwing grenades like candy in a kids party.
Allies all live on their munitions for everything.
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not to mention that axis have no real munition sinks, so they keep throwing grenades like candy in a kids party.
Allies all live on their munitions for everything.
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I wish Ostheer floats muni.
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The RNG of grenades (and all explosive AOE damage in CoH2 for that matter) is due to the tendency of infantry to clump up behind cover. Despite the best efforts of Relic and the modding community, I think this will continue to be an issue. Therefore, I propose that grenades receive similar treatment as landmines, in that the number of models that can be killed by any single grenade is limited. Applying a suppression modifier to the remaining models would be a fair trade-off in lethality and give grenades utility beyond squad wipes. In this way, even a sneaky commando grenade wouldn't kill a full health squad of grenadiers but would certainly force the survivors to retreat. I think Demo Charges should be treated similarly. The number of models and severity of the suppression could be directly proportional to the cost of the ability (e.g Demos leave 1 man standing of full squads, Bundles and Gammons kill 3/4 of max squad size, regular nades kill 2 models).
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