GCS main round stats w/ updates

These are map, commander and faction statistics for the GCS main round. The brackets are found here.

For links to replays, check out this thread. Stats for the placement matches can be found here.

Stats after all 114 games of the tournament. Six replays (which are used here to determine commanders only) are missing (steffenbk1 vs Zarok (G4), TwistedTootsy vs. BartonPL (G2), Talisman vs. Fredbrik (G1), Lt.Baumy vs. Luvnest (G4) and G3&G4 of VonIvan vs. HelpingHans) so no commander selections for those.

G4 of the semi of VonIvan vs. DevM was actually ruled in favor of VonIvan due to bugsplat, but I counted here for for DevM, as I feel that that would be a better reflection of faction/map/player/commander performance (unless OKW has the ability to make the opponent bugsplat in 1% of cases).

Faction stats

Factions

	ostheer	soviets	okw	usf	ukf
picked	53	52	61	36	26
won	27	29	24	20	14
won(%)	50	55	39	55	53

Matchups

Matchup	ostheer/soviets	ostheer/usf	ostheer/ukf	okw/soviets	okw/usf	okw/ukf
games	27	11	15	25	25	11
Allied victory	14	4	8	15	16	6
Allied victory (%)	51	36	53	60	64	54

Map stats

games	map name
38	Crossroads
26	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
18	Crossing in the Woods
32	Faymonville Approach

Faymonville Approach

	ostheer	soviets	okw	usf	ukf
picked	16	15	16	7	10
won	6	9	5	5	7
won(%)	38	60	31	71	70

Crossing in the Woods

	ostheer	soviets	okw	usf	ukf
picked	8	8	10	6	4
won	6	4	3	4	1
won(%)	75	50	30	67	25

Kholodny Ferma (Summer)

	ostheer	soviets	okw	usf	ukf
picked	8	13	18	10	3
won	4	10	5	5	2
won(%)	50	77	28	50	67

Crossroads

	ostheer	soviets	okw	usf	ukf
picked	21	16	17	13	9
won	11	6	11	6	4
won(%)	52	38	65	46	44

Commanders

Commander names are colored according to win percentages:

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OH doctrines
Commander choices available for 51 games

vs. soviets:
	10	Lightning War Doctrine
	3	Mechanized Assault Doctrine
	3	Elite Troops Doctrine
	1	Osttruppen Doctrine
	3	Blitzkrieg Doctrine
	2	None picked
	3	Mobile Defense Doctrine
	1	German Mechanized Doctrine
vs. usf:
	3	Lightning War Doctrine
	5	Mechanized Assault Doctrine
	2	Osttruppen Doctrine
	1	None picked
vs. ukf:
	3	Lightning War Doctrine
	1	Mechanized Assault Doctrine
	4	Elite Troops Doctrine
	3	Osttruppen Doctrine
	1	Blitzkrieg Doctrine
	1	None picked
	1	German Mechanized Doctrine

SOV tactics
Commander choices available for 48 games

vs. ostheer:
	8	Lend Lease Tactics
	6	Counterattack Tactics
	2	Defensive Tactics
	1	Guard Motor Coordination Tactics
	4	Soviet Reserve Army
	2	Advanced Warfare Tactics
	1	Partisan Tactics
	1	Soviet Shock Army
	1	Armored Assault Tactics
vs. okw:
	12	Lend Lease Tactics
	3	Defensive Tactics
	3	Guard Motor Coordination Tactics
	1	Advanced Warfare Tactics
	1	Partisan Tactics
	1	Terror Tactics
	1	Shock Rifle Frontline Tactics

OKW doctrines
Commander choices available for 57 games

vs. soviets:
	6	Special Operations Doctrine
	3	Luftwaffe Ground Forces Doctrine
	2	Scavange Doctrine
	4	Breakthrough Doctrine
	3	Fortifications Doctrine
	2	None picked
	1	Elite Armored Doctrine
	1	Overwatch Doctrine
vs. usf:
	10	Special Operations Doctrine
	4	Luftwaffe Ground Forces Doctrine
	2	Scavange Doctrine
	3	Breakthrough Doctrine
	2	Fortifications Doctrine
	1	None picked
	1	Elite Armored Doctrine
	1	Overwatch Doctrine
vs. ukf:
	2	Special Operations Doctrine
	1	Luftwaffe Ground Forces Doctrine
	4	Scavange Doctrine
	1	Breakthrough Doctrine
	1	Fortifications Doctrine
	1	None picked
	1	Elite Armored Doctrine

USF companies
Commander choices available for 35 games

vs. ostheer:
	6	Armor Company
	2	None picked
	2	Heavy Cavalry Company
	1	Tactical Support Company
vs. okw:
	10	Armor Company
	4	None picked
	4	Heavy Cavalry Company
	3	Mechanized Company
	1	Infantry Company
	1	Rifle Company
	1	Airborne Company

UKF regiments
Commander choices available for 25 games

vs. ostheer:
	10	Special Weapons Regiment
	2	Mobile Assault Regiment
	1	Vanguard Operations Regiment
	1	None picked
vs. okw:
	6	Special Weapons Regiment
	2	Mobile Assault Regiment
	2	Vanguard Operations Regiment
	1	Tactical Support Regiment

Games

A big, red "X" means that no commander was picked. A "-" indicates that the commander choice is unknown due to a missing replay file.


















































































































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Incredible FaHu	soviets		-vs-	DevM	ostheer		on	Faymonville Approach
DevM	usf		-vs-	Incredible FaHu	okw		on	Faymonville Approach
DevM	usf		-vs-	Incredible FaHu	ostheer		on	Crossing in the Woods
VonAsten	soviets		-vs-	Insane Spanky	ostheer		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
Insane Spanky	usf		-vs-	VonAsten	okw		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
VonAsten	ukf		-vs-	Insane Spanky	ostheer		on	Faymonville Approach
Fredbrik	ukf		-vs-	Earth	ostheer		on	Crossroads
Earth	ukf		-vs-	Fredbrik	okw		on	Crossroads
Fredbrik	ukf		-vs-	Earth	okw		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
Rachmaninoff	usf		-vs-	Talisman	okw		on	Faymonville Approach
Talisman	soviets		-vs-	Rachmaninoff	okw		on	Faymonville Approach
Rachmaninoff	usf		-vs-	Talisman	okw		on	Crossroads
VonIvan	soviets		-vs-	Burmie	ostheer		on	Crossroads
Burmie	ukf		-vs-	VonIvan	ostheer		on	Crossroads
Burmie	soviets		-vs-	VonIvan	okw		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
VonIvan	soviets		-vs-	Burmie	okw		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
=★= Pappy O'Daniel	usf		-vs-	Jérémy	okw		on	Crossroads
Jérémy	usf		-vs-	=★= Pappy O'Daniel	okw		on	Crossroads
=★= Pappy O'Daniel	usf		-vs-	Jérémy	okw		on	Crossing in the Woods
Tobis	usf		-vs-	Andres-TC	ostheer		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
Andres-TC	soviets		-vs-	Tobis	okw		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
Andres-TC	soviets		-vs-	Tobis	okw		on	Crossroads
Tobis	usf		-vs-	Andres-TC	ostheer		on	Crossroads
Refero	soviets		-vs-	Theodosios	ostheer		on	Faymonville Approach
Theodosios	ukf		-vs-	Refero	okw		on	Faymonville Approach
Refero	soviets		-vs-	Theodosios	ostheer		on	Crossroads
Theodosios	usf		-vs-	Refero	okw		on	Crossroads
Theodosios	usf		-vs-	Refero	okw		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
Finndeed	usf		-vs-	Luvnest	okw		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
Luvnest	usf		-vs-	Finndeed	okw		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
Finndeed	usf		-vs-	Luvnest	ostheer		on	Crossing in the Woods
Tomakaze	soviets		-vs-	Lt.Baumy	okw		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
Lt.Baumy	soviets		-vs-	Tomakaze	ostheer		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
Tomakaze	soviets		-vs-	Lt.Baumy	okw		on	Faymonville Approach
havoc lol	soviets		-vs-	Jesulin	okw		on	Crossing in the Woods
Jesulin	soviets		-vs-	havoc lol	okw		on	Crossing in the Woods
Jesulin	soviets		-vs-	havoc lol	okw		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
|GB| The H[oo]ligan486	soviets		-vs-	Insane Aimstrong	ostheer		on	Crossroads
Insane Aimstrong	ukf		-vs-	|GB| The H[oo]ligan486	okw		on	Crossroads
|GB| The H[oo]ligan486	soviets		-vs-	Insane Aimstrong	ostheer		on	Faymonville Approach
Insane Aimstrong	ukf		-vs-	|GB| The H[oo]ligan486	okw		on	Faymonville Approach
|GB| The H[oo]ligan486	soviets		-vs-	Insane Aimstrong	ostheer		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
ku2521	soviets		-vs-	HelpingHans	ostheer		on	Faymonville Approach
HelpingHans	ukf		-vs-	ku2521	ostheer		on	Faymonville Approach
ku2521	ukf		-vs-	HelpingHans	ostheer		on	Crossing in the Woods
Zarok	ukf		-vs-	steffenbk1	okw		on	Faymonville Approach
steffenbk1	usf		-vs-	Zarok	okw		on	Faymonville Approach
Zarok	ukf		-vs-	steffenbk1	ostheer		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
steffenbk1	soviets	-	-vs-	Zarok	okw	-	on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
steffenbk1	soviets		-vs-	Zarok	ostheer		on	Crossroads
Jae for Jett	usf		-vs-	SoLKoreanArmy	ostheer		on	Crossing in the Woods
SoLKoreanArmy	soviets		-vs-	Jae for Jett	okw		on	Crossing in the Woods
SoLKoreanArmy	soviets		-vs-	Jae for Jett	okw		on	Crossroads
Jae for Jett	usf		-vs-	SoLKoreanArmy	ostheer		on	Crossroads
TwistedTootsy	ukf		-vs-	BartonPL	okw		on	Faymonville Approach
BartonPL	soviets	-	-vs-	TwistedTootsy	okw	-	on	Faymonville Approach
BartonPL	usf		-vs-	TwistedTootsy	okw		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
Tobis	usf		-vs-	Theodosios	ostheer		on	Crossroads
Theodosios	usf		-vs-	Tobis	okw		on	Crossroads
Tobis	usf		-vs-	Theodosios	okw		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
=★= Pappy O'Daniel	usf		-vs-	VonIvan	ostheer		on	Crossroads
VonIvan	soviets		-vs-	=★= Pappy O'Daniel	okw		on	Crossroads
VonIvan	soviets		-vs-	=★= Pappy O'Daniel	okw		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
VonAsten	soviets		-vs-	DevM	okw		on	Crossroads
DevM	usf		-vs-	VonAsten	okw		on	Crossroads
DevM	usf		-vs-	VonAsten	okw		on	Crossing in the Woods
Talisman	soviets	-	-vs-	Fredbrik	okw	-	on	Crossroads
Fredbrik	ukf		-vs-	Talisman	okw		on	Crossroads
Fredbrik	ukf		-vs-	Talisman	okw		on	Faymonville Approach
Talisman	soviets		-vs-	Fredbrik	okw		on	Faymonville Approach
Talisman	soviets		-vs-	Fredbrik	okw		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
Luvnest	ukf		-vs-	Lt.Baumy	okw		on	Crossing in the Woods
Lt.Baumy	soviets		-vs-	Luvnest	ostheer		on	Crossing in the Woods
Lt.Baumy	soviets		-vs-	Luvnest	okw		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
Luvnest	usf	-	-vs-	Lt.Baumy	okw	-	on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
Jesulin	soviets		-vs-	Insane Aimstrong	ostheer		on	Crossroads
Insane Aimstrong	ukf		-vs-	Jesulin	ostheer		on	Crossroads
Jesulin	usf		-vs-	Insane Aimstrong	ostheer		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
HelpingHans	ukf		-vs-	Zarok	ostheer		on	Crossroads
Zarok	soviets		-vs-	HelpingHans	ostheer		on	Crossroads
HelpingHans	ukf		-vs-	Zarok	ostheer		on	Faymonville Approach
BartonPL	soviets		-vs-	SoLKoreanArmy	ostheer		on	Faymonville Approach
SoLKoreanArmy	soviets		-vs-	BartonPL	okw		on	Faymonville Approach
SoLKoreanArmy	ukf		-vs-	BartonPL	okw		on	Crossing in the Woods
Talisman	soviets		-vs-	DevM	ostheer		on	Faymonville Approach
DevM	usf		-vs-	Talisman	okw		on	Faymonville Approach
Talisman	soviets		-vs-	DevM	okw		on	Crossing in the Woods
DevM	usf		-vs-	Talisman	okw		on	Crossing in the Woods
VonIvan	soviets		-vs-	[WH]Theodosios	ostheer		on	Crossroads
[WH]Theodosios	usf		-vs-	VonIvan	okw		on	Crossroads
VonIvan	soviets		-vs-	[WH]Theodosios	okw		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
Luvnest	soviets		-vs-	Insane Aimstrong	ostheer		on	Crossroads
Insane Aimstrong	ukf		-vs-	Luvnest	ostheer		on	Crossroads
Luvnest	soviets		-vs-	Insane Aimstrong	ostheer		on	Faymonville Approach
BartonPL	soviets		-vs-	HelpingHans	ostheer		on	Crossroads
HelpingHans	ukf		-vs-	BartonPL	ostheer		on	Crossroads
BartonPL	soviets		-vs-	HelpingHans	ostheer		on	Faymonville Approach
VonIvan	soviets		-vs-	DevM	ostheer		on	Crossroads
DevM	usf		-vs-	VonIvan	okw		on	Crossroads
VonIvan	soviets		-vs-	DevM	ostheer		on	Faymonville Approach
DevM	usf		-vs-	VonIvan	okw		on	Faymonville Approach
DevM	usf		-vs-	VonIvan	okw		on	Faymonville Approach
HelpingHans	ukf		-vs-	Luvnest @ Operation Sea Lion 2.0	ostheer		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
Luvnest	usf		-vs-	HelpingHans	ostheer		on	Kholodny Ferma (Summer)
HelpingHans	ukf		-vs-	Luvnest	ostheer		on	Faymonville Approach
Luvnest	usf		-vs-	HelpingHans	ostheer		on	Faymonville Approach
VonIvan	soviets		-vs-	HelpingHans	ostheer		on	Crossing in the Woods
HelpingHans	ukf		-vs-	VonIvan	ostheer		on	Crossing in the Woods
VonIvan	soviets	-	-vs-	HelpingHans	ostheer	-	on	aymonville Approach
HelpingHans	ukf	-	-vs-	VonIvan	ostheer	-	on	Faymonville Approach
Luvnest	soviets		-vs-	DevM	ostheer		on	Crossroads
DevM	usf		-vs-	Luvnest	okw		on	Crossroads
Luvnest	soviets		-vs-	DevM	ostheer		on	Crossing in the Woods
DevM	soviets		-vs-

I guess Soviets are less bad than some people were worried about?

Faction stats

Factions

	ostheer	soviets	okw	usf	ukf
picked	12	10	17	13	6
won	4	7	7	7	4
won(%)	33	70	41	53	66

Damn Ostheer needs an urgent nerf.

Before pzfaust change - soviets worst win rate in gcs placements.

After pzfaust change - soviets best win rate in gcs main round.

soviets are real cheesy with their demo wipes/flamer car, cheap partyson instant at nade and shreck, etc..., they are the toughest opponents whenever I play 1v1s...

I guess Soviets are less bad than some people were worried about?

Due to how matchups in the first round of GCS are determined this dataset can, at best, tell you what factions the best players prefer to play as.

e.g., if DevM's favourite faction was not USF, the winrate for USF would go down, etc.

You can expect to see more-balanced matchups starting from the 2nd round and above.

Tobis vs Andres and Theodosios vs Refero seem to have been more evenly matched than the other matches on that round. (I've only watched Tobis' matches though).

You can't say 1 faction is OP or UP at all. I agree that like OKW is in a very good spot, thats for sure, but it also depends on the map.

Also like when rank 32 plays vs rank 1. And rank 1 wins 3 games. He probaly would win with anyfaction the 3 games tbh.

So yes numbers and stats are great, but also you have to look on the players and the map!

but but threads are filled with axis op and that allies suck much that they need to removed from the game. /s

i am 100% sure more axis nerfs are coming just because modders giving into pressure of allied bullies in the threads just like relic did.....and no making axis weak early because they are strong late game is suhc bullshit because they are not better late game then other faction the only strong late game factions is actually ukfs....the axis tanks infantry are already nerfed to the ground nothing elite about them

Due to how matchups in the first round of GCS are determined this dataset can, at best, tell you what factions the best players prefer to play as.

e.g., if DevM's favourite faction was not USF, the winrate for USF would go down, etc.

You can expect to see more-balanced matchups starting from the 2nd round and above.

Tobis vs Andres and Theodosios vs Refero seem to have been more evenly matched than the other matches on that round. (I've only watched Tobis' matches though).

Definitely. Just, given how much bullshitting that's been going around lately, one could imagine not even VonIvan playing Soviets would be able to beat a monkey playing Axis

Sample size to small to be accurate representation of faction balance currently. Seeding of first round also often pit a high seed vs a low seed and resulted in large skill gap games where the high seed could most likely have won with any faction. At least wait for the first round to conclude this Sunday to begin making assumptions. Also if USF won the only games on crossing in the woods clearly there was a skill gap. OpieOP

Sample size to small to be accurate representation of faction balance currently. Seeding of first round also often pit a high seed vs a low seed and resulted in large skill gap games where the high seed could most likely have won with any faction. At least wait for the first round to conclude this Sunday to begin making assumptions. Also if USF won the only games on crossing in the woods clearly there was a skill gap. OpieOP

That DevM game in Camping in the Woods was brutal, definitively the best game out of the 3, A_E quoting The Simpsons makes it unforgetable.

So they are using the new patch I take it?

Games reordered according to brackets and added commander picks.

Yeah OH on life support, but this is not a surprise, even before the patch I was struggling to find a cast or replay with WM wins I may be bad at this game but it looks like everybody is bad with OH.
If OH loses it's L2P issue, if allies lose it's imbalance issue. Allies fanboys are better at complaining i guess or they are more in numbers. Not too many people play WM nowadays.

Yeah OH on life support, but this is not a surprise, even before the patch I was struggling to find a cast or replay with WM wins I may be bad at this game but it looks like everybody is bad with OH.
If OH loses it's L2P issue, if allies lose it's imbalance issue. Allies fanboys are better at complaining i guess or they are more in numbers. Not too many people play WM nowadays.

its real funny that u say that because most of the time there is alot more axis calling for nerfs on allies and thats why there is so many nerfs to allies, and u know how allies respond? they just adjust and keep playing. almost every patch in the last 2 years , each one of the patches have more allies nerfs then axis nerfs. proven fact

@frostbite - the fact that they were nerfed just proves how overpowered they were in the past.
And we all know that the patches fix only few things at a time ( and sometime revert the changes).
I am sure the fanboys can find lots of arguments just like yours but the numbers don't lie. It's obviously easier to win as allies, just check DevM stats.

alot of axis players were used to a very simple style of play, they would get mgs and make units retreat and sit there. get tanks and always fight head on while enemy tanks deflect every thing. blitskrieg in blitzkrieg out.... smoke away from deaths. winning op inf fights.
while allies always tried hard using flanking manuevers smokes mines tons of strategy to avoid mgs. basically using everything they can think of to kill super tanks and axis blobs. and they eventually got better then axis players. that called for allies nerfs to even out the win /lose ratio. and till this day things like that stil exists. its getting alot better now tho

Allies OP. Buff zee Germans bitte.

alot of axis players were used to a very simple style of play, they would get mgs and make units retreat and sit there. get tanks and always fight head on while enemy tanks deflect every thing. blitskrieg in blitzkrieg out.... smoke away from deaths. winning op inf fights.
while allies always tried hard using flanking manuevers smokes mines tons of strategy to avoid mgs. basically using everything they can think of to kill super tanks and axis blobs. and they eventually got better then axis players. that called for allies nerfs to even out the win /lose ratio. and till this day things like that stil exists. its getting alot better now tho

What about players that play axis and Allies equally? Balance opinions shouldn't be taken seriously from people who only play one side because obviously there will be a large amount of bias. No AHP pairwise comparison and checking for consistency ratio < 0.1 is gonna fix that bias.

The sample here is far too small and also dominated by very clearly won matchups (3-0 or 3-1) to make any inferences on balance. The only remotely sensible way to look at these matches would be by only looking at matches that seemed less clear cut, i.e. where each of the players did win at least one game (an approach chosen by Cruzzi in the GCS matches before the main round). Otherwise the result is just an indication for the skill gab and not for the balance since most of these clear cut series had the "stronger" player starting with an allied faction.

A lot more games will be needed

Again, thanks to Siphon X., for the fantastic work.