Worst than brace : multiple OKW's flak trucks camping vp

Tood start would be to read defenition of 2 words "tier" and "unit". Then you woupd know why its standart scenario when t70 vs axis mediums is standart scenario in this game.

Tood start would be to read defenition of 2 words "tier" and "unit". Then you woupd know why its standart scenario when t70 vs axis mediums is standart scenario in this game.

The two are directly connected. I can't get a T-70 out without teching to the equivalent tier first - that may come as a surprise to you, but if you give it your best attempt at thinking like someone above an IQ of 90 (which I hope you are capable of, for at least a few minutes a day), it will seem logical.

So if we compare the cost of reaching a certain tech-level plus the unit's cost with that of the other faction, we would see that even your last statements is - as those before - bollocks. Ostheer and OKW take considerably more fuel and time to even reach their medium tank tier, plus their medium tanks cost a considerable amount on top of that. Soviet teching to that point is cheaper than Ostheer teching and slightly more expensive than OKW teching, and the T-70 is significantly cheaper than either Panzer IV version, so a T-70 coming out at the same time as a Panzer IV is impossible to be a standard scenario.
This is derailing the thread, so I will not comment on this any further (your claim has been sufficiently refuted).

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BTT: Adding even more cost to OKW would be ridiculous at this point (look at my previous post for justification). There are also more than enough counters to the building, preventing it from being more than a slightly irritating obstacle - if using AT guns, artillery, and/or smoke appropriately is too much for you, the Schwerer Panzer HQ is hardly the problem and certainly not your biggest problem.

If anything, all base buildings, emplacements, and retreat points should have an aura around them, effecting all friendly units and causing them to receive more damage. This way clumping up around forward bases would be much harder, and Sim City-playstyles would actually become a bad idea - if the Bofors right next to my mortar emplacement causes both to be destroyed much more easily, I will think twice about setting them up next to each other. If my Schwerer Panzer HQ causes my infantry fighting around it to get killed more easily, I will probably not put it that close to the front where the fighting is happening.

Anyway, for me COH2 is still lot of fun and a game i still and will play a lot !

Maybe just few ajustements on the team format maps would help to make the game even more enjoyable. Or new maps !!!!

But Honestly, if a had to pick a side (Axis or allies) to play for cash in team format, i would play Axis all the time...(better units overall and better team synergy.)

Playing for fun :I always choose allies as they have 3 factions meaning more diversity and less routinely play and it's a lot more challenging.

See you all on the battlefield !!!!

That's the point

I am the derplord

OKW trucks and Brit emplacements are the same cancer with a different flavor. This thread only shows Axis Fanboy popping to defend their own little OP thing vs the rest of the world.

okw trucks die like flies under the alles callins, mortat abilitys and artys spam...and are expansive as hell

To the guy saying okw should smoke bofor to cap vp : tell me how u do that

Off: not saying it's the way to go, but if you are in that scenario to fringe use it in this way (say you have the units nearby while the bofors is on brace):
-Cancer nades (Fall, Ober)
-Puma/Flak HT smoke canister

OP is clearly drunk and doesn't know what he is talking about.. KATUSHAS/Calliopes/Landmattress/120mm/USF mortars/UKF motar pits/SU heavy arty all make short work of any OKW emplacement.

Came here to say this, someone beat me to it. +1

That moment when 2 sturms with flames + ieig18 shooting a braced bofors who is repaired with stand fast faster than they can damage it.That's what i call OP, not 120 truck who get destroyed easy.Also sturms cost a lot to just repair a flak that can't wipe infantry.

Dont forget, flak does not have veteran bonuses... It should IMO

Make the gun an opt-in upgrade, and put 5-8 popcap on it, like the Bofors (which has 10).
#fixed

IF you can make the upgrades available to ALL trucks.
IE, if I call a T2/med truck, it should be able to upgrade to a flak emplacement.
This way, it's brought up to speed with the bofors spam

Even more side tech for OKW? Would be nice if we could lower the overpriced 150 fuel OKW p4 then while we are at it huh?

Yes please! +1

With those copious amounts of Falls you see OKW-players use in every match... Kappa

Faction	Tier I	Tier II /Subtech I	Tier III	Tier IV /Subtech II	Total w/o upgrades	Total w/ upgrades
Ostheer	80MP/10F	200MP/40F + 100MP/40F	240MP/60F + 100MP/45F	200MP/50F + 100MP/45F	1020MP/270F	(+150MP/60A for medic bunker -> 1170MP/60A/270F
OKW	200MP/25F + 100MP/15F	200MP/50F + 100MP/15F	200MP/120F + 100MP/15F		900MP/240F	1400MP/270F
Soviets	160MP/10F	160MP/20F	240MP/85F	240MP/90F	800MP/205F	1300MP/245F
America	200MP/50F	200MP/60F	240MP/120F		640MP/230F	940MP/270F (+250MP/10F for Amublance -> 1190MP/280F)
Brits	180MP/30F	100MP/15F	280MP/115F	200MP/50F	760MP/210F	1210MP/275F (+30A for med-kits -> 1210MP/30A/275F)

Ah yes. Cheapest unlocks. And quickest too, especially if we completely ignore that some factions have twice the effort of teching due to "researching" a tier or vehicle first. Seriously, your attempts at throwing bollocks around have gotten quite low recently...

Not to be biased towards any faction, but NO USF & OKW players builds all three tiers every single game.(Assuming in 1v1)
USF & OKW can and will skip tiers to rush final tier.(Unless stalling for callins which almost everyone and their pet monkey does)

USF build order in most games:
1. Lieu(200MP+50F) + Major(240MP+120F) + Ambo(250MP+10F) = Total(690MP + 180F)
2. Cpt(200MP+60F) + Major(240MP+120F) + Ambo(250MP+10F) = Total(690MP + 190F)

OKW build order in most games: (Med upgrade is always used for Battlegroup, but repair pioneers are seldom used, for this comparison let's assume pioneer upgrade is purchased)
1. Battlegroupe(200MP+25F) + Medics(100MP+15F) + Flak HQ(200MP+120F) = Total(500MP+160F)
2. Mechanised(200MP+50F) + Repairs(100MP+15F) + Flak HQ(200MP+120F) = Total(500MP+185F)

With skipping tiers USF & OKW gets access to their final tier earlier than other factions, assuming that equal resource income is available.

Came here to say this, someone beat me to it. +1


Dont forget, flak does not have veteran bonuses... It should IMO


IF you can make the upgrades available to ALL trucks.
IE, if I call a T2/med truck, it should be able to upgrade to a flak emplacement.
This way, it's brought up to speed with the bofors spam


Yes please! +1

NO NO NO. We don't need more microless land lock BS. Bofors must be toned down to Flak HQ levels or even rework the entire unit from the ground up.

Came here to say this, someone beat me to it. +1


Dont forget, flak does not have veteran bonuses... It should IMO


IF you can make the upgrades available to ALL trucks.
IE, if I call a T2/med truck, it should be able to upgrade to a flak emplacement.
This way, it's brought up to speed with the bofors spam


Yes please! +1

You did'not read the thread, thanks for the insult.

Anyway, for me COH2 is still lot of fun and a game i still and will play a lot !

Maybe just few ajustements on the team format maps would help to make the game even more enjoyable. Or new maps !!!!

But Honestly, if a had to pick a side (Axis or allies) to play for cash in team format, i would play Axis all the time...(better units overall and better team synergy.)

Playing for fun :I always choose allies as they have 3 factions meaning more diversity and less routinely play and it's a lot more challenging.

See you all on the battlefield !!!!

No offense but you have 0 games as Axis https://www.coh2.org/ladders/playercard/viewBoard/11/steamid/76561197970790508 maybe try Axis for once and see how ez they are

No offense but you have 0 games as Axis https://www.coh2.org/ladders/playercard/viewBoard/11/steamid/76561197970790508 maybe try Axis for once and see how ez they are

You'll better read it again, i may not have a lot of games played as Axis, but it more then zero....
Go troll elsewhere !!!

Thanks.

You'll better read it again, i may not have a lot of games played as Axis, but it more then zero....
Go troll elsewhere !!!

Thanks.

Just ignore them man! You were bound to spawn all the fanboys trying to defend their truck camping lol.

Just ignore them man! You were bound to spawn all the fanboys trying to defend their truck camping lol.

WTF??

the schwere is so easy to kill...espacily in teamgame...if u have problem to kill it...its ur own problem.

the long range AT/ Tankhunter/arti/callins etc...they all kill it in secounds.

Are we comparing FlakHT and bofors here?


So when we look at the JPIV, it's cloak in live patch is obviously cancerous, yes? That means the Valentine tank, because it also can cloak, is just as cancerous and broken as the JPIV and should also be nerfed, am I right? OpieOP

There is no issue here at all... Like none...

If you lose the building you lose the game. Putting it forward is a huge risk reward/gamble, risk/reward strats are what every good RTS should have an element of.

It's easily destroyed by anything if you focus it and you can't even control what it shoots at, so bait it's bullets with anything that can take a few.

The bofors is not even comparable.