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In any team format:

Worst than brace : Multiple OKW's flak trucks + a forward retreat truck camping a VP or the best fuel point.

When the map make it possible, it's a lot worst than brace. Dual OKW team are hard to beat when using it and playing well .(2vs2)

It permit to the Axis team to concentrate elsewhere, and to retreat to it in case of something happen.

Sure it can be beaten, but it's as fun as Brit's brace...

My 2 cents

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They still can't brace and are fast destroyed, while 2 bofors at the same point would do more damage and live longer and the players have lower disadvantages when they got destroyed, compared to flak hq.

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25 Mar 2017, 03:46 AMvoltardark

Obvious troll

I can't even hear you over the sound of loosing 2 full health squads retreating through a bofors kek

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FRP that - is cancer. FOR USF, Brits and OKW. Its just remove strategic design of COH2 map.

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Building your flak truck in order to protect an area of the map is a great way of loosing it. Every faction has counters for it and unlike Brit emplacements they actually work well.

It is easily destroyed and loosing it comes close to loosing the game because you can´t build tanks (other than call-ins) and lost 120 fuel. Compare that to loosing a cheap Bofors.

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25 Mar 2017, 08:34 AMblvckdream

Building your flak truck in order to protect an area of the map is a great way of loosing it. Every faction has counters for it and unlike Brit emplacements they actually work well.

It is easily destroyed and loosing it comes close to loosing the game because you can´t build tanks (other than call-ins) and lost 120 fuel. Compare that to loosing a cheap Bofors.

So what, we should fight WW1 style in WW2 with 2 camping sides, the OKW with their truck bases and the Brits with their emplacement bases, and cry for whoever loses to Arty first because they can't repair their god damn sim city in time.

STOP fucking comparing BULLSHIT and actually suggest a way to fix this shit.

If you want less WW1 stalemate warfare then make the Armies more mobile with less options to just camp.

And emplacement camping is basically in the British core design, THEY ARE BUILT AROUND USING EMPLACEMENTS.

MAKE THEM LESS RELIANT ON FUCKING EMPLACEMENTS.

Does the solution need to hit you in the face in order for you to recognize it?

Are we all this daft?

Are Relic this daft?

God help us all.

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OP is clearly drunk and doesn't know what he is talking about.. KATUSHAS/Calliopes/Landmattress/120mm/USF mortars/UKF motar pits/SU heavy arty all make short work of any OKW emplacement. Oh and the countless artillery options and air strikes all the factions have such as the bombing run, insta drop arty from USF. The delete OKW building bombing drop from UKF, Shit even the valentine with the combined artillery. Shit even 2 AT guns with a spotter can knock out a tier in short time, at least EVERY SHOT COUNTS.

Now let's talk about the invincible alien technology I like to call brace. You know when some sandbags stop a ST shot, or a Stuka dive bomb does virtually nothing. All for the quarter of the price, and a click of a button... you know when you have doctorines that completely support emplacements. Emplacements that can go invincible and heal themselves all with a push of a button, all at the same time.

Yea...

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25 Mar 2017, 14:05 PMIntelligence209

OP is clearly drunk and doesn't know what he is talking about.. KATUSHAS/Calliopes/Landmattress/120mm/USF mortars/UKF motar pits/SU heavy arty all make short work of any OKW emplacement. Oh and the countless artillery options and air strikes all the factions have such as the bombing run, insta drop arty from USF. The delete OKW building bombing drop from UKF, Shit even the valentine with the combined artillery. Shit even 2 AT guns with a spotter can knock out a tier in short time, at least EVERY SHOT COUNTS.

Now let's talk about the invincible alien technology I like to call brace. You know when some sandbags stop a ST shot, or a Stuka dive bomb does virtually nothing. All for the quarter of the price, and a click of a button... you know when you have doctorines that completely support emplacements. Emplacements that can go invincible and heal themselves all with a push of a button, all at the same time.

Yea...

That moment when 2 sturms with flames + ieig18 shooting a braced bofors who is repaired with stand fast faster than they can damage it.That's what i call OP, not 120 truck who get destroyed easy.Also sturms cost a lot to just repair a flak that can't wipe infantry.

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25 Mar 2017, 03:46 AMvoltardark

In any team format:

coh2 is (supposed to be) balanced around 1v1, any discussion around team games is pointless.

But if you want my point of view, even in team games, the okw flak is easy to destroy because only sturm can repair it and are very weak while doing that.

a single 120 mm mortar can get rid of a flak HT, and if you get countered by leifh then you can reinforce your squad with cons/m3 halftrack.

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Make the gun an opt-in upgrade, and put 5-8 popcap on it, like the Bofors (which has 10).

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You have to realize its a big risk losing a flak HQ, a lot of resources are wasted if its destroyed and you lose access to T4... a flak emplacement however is pretty cheap and still has brace...

Should be fixing brits before anything else who just have superior everything for some unknown reason.

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25 Mar 2017, 15:39 PMMr.Smith

Make the gun an opt-in upgrade, and put 5-8 popcap on it, like the Bofors (which has 10).

#fixed

Then it's defensive mode will be useless.Usually is got to have it near your medic hq so you can be protected from flanks,infiltration units,etc.It can't be just like that placed near VP and fuel without risking 120 fuel and constant repair.

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25 Mar 2017, 03:46 AMvoltardark

In any team format:

Worst than brace : Multiple OKW's flak trucks + a forward retreat truck camping a VP or the best fuel point.

When the map make it possible, it's a lot worst than brace. Dual OKW team are hard to beat when using it and playing well .(2vs2)

It permit to the Axis team to concentrate elsewhere, and to retreat to it in case of something happen.

Sure it can be beaten, but it's as fun as Brit's brace...

My 2 cents

Not with you on this one. Destroying aggressively placed OKW tanks is the most fun thing to do in large team games. People putting trucks by vp's are the people that make Priests look good. They can even manage to make pack howie look good (which is normally an overpriced POS), as the damage helps vet them fast and they sound really good when they hit vet 3. I especially like using the Priests because I can't stop laughing when I hear the Priest crew say "That's it, they all f'ing dead!" RIP Sturms

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25 Mar 2017, 15:39 PMMr.Smith

Make the gun an opt-in upgrade, and put 5-8 popcap on it, like the Bofors (which has 10).

#fixed

Yes please.
#DownwithOKWFreebies

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25 Mar 2017, 15:39 PMMr.Smith

Make the gun an opt-in upgrade, and put 5-8 popcap on it, like the Bofors (which has 10).

#fixed

Even more side tech for OKW? Would be nice if we could lower the overpriced 150 fuel OKW p4 then while we are at it huh?

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Just nerf comets/cromwells/lend lease before you ever nerf other less gamebreaking things

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25 Mar 2017, 15:39 PMMr.Smith

Make the gun an opt-in upgrade, and put 5-8 popcap on it, like the Bofors (which has 10).

#fixed

Free squads for USF MVGame

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25 Mar 2017, 16:34 PMThunderhun

Free squads for USF MVGame

Free squads?
You mean the 8 (Lieutenant) + 8 (Captain) + 5 (Major) + 4 (Ambulance) popcap squads the USF gets?

I only talked about popcap cost.

inb4: yes; USF popcap abuse is actually fixable

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Mr Smith how bout doing other useful thing's like all OKW base defence cannot target aircraft #freeaa. In b4 tge upgrade suggestion for flak truck is pathetic 100mp charge.

Find it funny how many people cant concede that any form of emplacment near points in numbers is annoying British or not. OP had a point but the trolls came out. Also flak truck should have mode for target ground or air to make a player weigh the choice as been lot of talk of "no brainers" and the flak truck in present statw is one for OKW. Honestly the free anti air base defence combined with the free flak from the flak hq makes allied air abilities look like an alternative history dimension.

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Here's my solution to the flak cannon and HQ.

-100-120 munitions for flak cannon no population
-Panzer HQ cost halved but can only call in Obers and maybe jagdpIV
-Upgrade required for the other tanks which brings back the cost to standard levels in total.
-Gun can choose targets.

Finally

-AA no longer based on RNG

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2047
1357
.601
-2
8.
★Osas
185
68
.731
+11
9.
Ame
71
13
.845
+6
10.
✠Kaiser✠ tushkan
798
491
.619
-2

                    

                        1.
[NS] YGNOW
1920
520
.787
+2
2.
★Osas
650
294
.689
+8
3.
Artyom
256
71
.783
+1
4.
masterx.
241
99
.709
+6
5.
Thales
698
309
.693
-1
6.
Sanest Black Noir Fanatic
464
171
.731
+1
7.
偂侽宥
892
633
.585
+8
8.
Richmond
277
123
.693
+1
9.
klonmayer
245
125
.662
+4
10.
Lieutenant
385
265
.592
+2

                    

                        1.
godjaemin
658
261
.716
-1
2.
ZNMOP
642
464
.580
+4
3.
Misaki
209
61
.774
+1
4.
输了我就该背锅
495
183
.730
+5
5.
一切皆在此刻！
788
321
.711
+1
6.
天冷好个秋
384
203
.654
-1
7.
Tilly'edenan of the Spring
1583
857
.649
+16
8.
Rodinho
624
351
.640
-1
9.
Per Aspera ad astra
1360
779
.636
-1
10.
[Dengue]™Alexandro
1150
368
.758
+5

                    

                        1.
GiantDwarf
390
56
.874
+9
2.
ttv/GiantDwarf
811
195
.806
+1
3.
vonLewinski
427
153
.736
+15
4.
Zirty Zoggy
251
45
.848
+63
5.
SKELETRON
2051
689
.749
+16
6.
ker_141
379
144
.725
+3
7.
逼罗，逼罗 你妈很滑很润
1290
480
.729
+10
8.
night_raven0203
3565
1752
.670
-3
9.
[-✰-81] Cc
449
215
.676
+8
10.
elpern
378
166
.695
+4

                    

                        1.
DIRTY_FINISHER
2681
1453
.649
+6
2.
Aljosa - [BOBER]
124
43
.743
+6
3.
☞ ps3YES ☜
903
375
.707
+1
4.
Pioneer
188
98
.657
-5
5.
Zirty Zoggy
92
24
.793
-1
6.
BatON
1184
784
.602
-1
7.
godjaemin
187
73
.719
-2
8.
Siva
239
133
.642
+2
9.
Nnenitar
82
20
.804
+3
10.
gardening lelic
907
478
.655
+1

                    

                        1.
Mr.Brightside
721
372
.660
+2
2.
Sanest Black Noir Fanatic
469
188
.714
+2
3.
Richmond
159
66
.707
-1
4.
masterx.
368
135
.732
+4
5.
SFC. LEE ッ
3279
1056
.756
-1
6.
JOE
1238
750
.623
+2
7.
Riiiiina
448
163
.733
+2
8.
THRILLHO
560
401
.583
+3
9.
itsjomal
107
43
.713
+10
10.
CAuMOH
390
183
.681
+1

                    

                        1.
godjaemin
391
284
.579
+1
2.
今汐高手
884
742
.544
+2
3.
昂撒猪猪拳
1037
832
.555
-2
4.
Ken
169
69
.710
-1
5.
一切皆在此刻！
393
247
.614
+3
6.
CNposition
318
203
.610
+1
7.
King of Lee
757
575
.568
+1
8.
BATTLEDANNY1
511
346
.596
-1
9.
lc50
292
250
.539
-1
10.
THRILLHO
1345
1368
.496
+2

                    

                        1.
MoronPark_Cat YE
429
63
.872
+7
2.
джинь
528
75
.876
+1
3.
cblanco ★
303
163
.650
+3
4.
michciop_[Fe!]
126
44
.741
-1
5.
vonLewinski
312
114
.732
+8
6.
ker_141
289
112
.721
+1
7.
PanMuGwan
147
60
.710
-2
8.
Correia
67
17
.798
+5
9.
Dolecto
136
65
.677
+4
10.
Boomerwaffen
743
433
.632
+3

                    

                        1.
HazardousMoose
603
317
.655
+28
2.
Aljosa - [BOBER]
280
167
.626
+8
3.
DIRTY_FINISHER
1698
926
.647
+3
4.
IncaUna
585
358
.620
+2
5.
Zirty Zoggy
106
25
.809
-2
6.
M U N O
466
231
.669
+1
7.
Siva
182
99
.648
-2
8.
【Clannad】
215
69
.757
+1
9.
Alastor
57
16
.781
+1
10.
Jhiaxus
125
57
.687
+11

                    

                        1.
Remder
628
185
.772
+9
2.
André
1033
445
.699
+2
3.
Riiiiina
326
127
.720
+14
4.
BATTLEDANNY1
102
27
.791
-1
5.
HazardousMoose
179
85
.678
+4
6.
계엄령
1554
766
.670
-1
7.
Califax
463
195
.704
-1
8.
★Osas
365
159
.697
+2
9.
TaLa
271
167
.619
+7
10.
Искусство ZZ
9
2
.818
-1

                    

                        1.
Tharrats
796
631
.558
+1
2.
今汐高手
603
429
.584
+1
3.
输了我就该背锅
170
85
.667
+11
4.
一切皆在此刻！
340
221
.606
+3
5.
BATTLEDANNY1
429
302
.587
+5
6.
-3cHo^
488
229
.681
-1
7.
White pigs delete the game
231
142
.619
-1
8.
Burlak
2350
2053
.534
+5
9.
君汰艳阳来 融尽一城雪白 恩情耀万代~
434
352
.552
+2
10.
godjaemin
575
373
.607
+2

                    

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