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Can we make Relic add to USF the shermah 76 mm gun

8 Mar 2017, 17:21 PM
#1
avatar of mondeogaming1

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so its really unfair to get the 76 mm gun sherman you have to get the E8 so lets try and put it on the winter ballance mod or make our own mods and help me make one
10 Mar 2017, 11:14 AM
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avatar of Tiger Baron

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There is an M4A3 76(W) unit in the games files using the same model as the EZ8, however there is no upgrade and I don't believe we can make one because the game doesn't allow editing a model currently.
10 Mar 2017, 11:21 AM
#3
avatar of Osinyagov
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As said one of the members of Community Balance Team about non-doc T-34-85 and M4A3(76)W:
I doubt it will ever happen, but just for the sake of discussion, I think it'd be better to put the KV-1 on Tier 4 than the T-34/85. The 85 is just a better version of the 76, so it's not very interesting, whereas the KV-1 is actually something different, it's a strong beefy tank but with weak weaponry.
10 Mar 2017, 11:50 AM
#4
avatar of mondeogaming1

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As said one of the members of Community Balance Team about non-doc T-34-85 and M4A3(76)W:
will it really be?
10 Mar 2017, 12:00 PM
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10 Mar 2017, 13:03 PM
#6
avatar of mondeogaming1

Posts: 464

well i hope they make it i missed at coh1 76 mm gun field upgrade
10 Mar 2017, 13:16 PM
#7
avatar of DonnieChan

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so its really unfair to get the 76 mm gun sherman you have to get the E8 so lets try and put it on the winter ballance mod ormake our own mods and help me make one


how about you make the start then?
10 Mar 2017, 13:47 PM
#8
avatar of karskimies

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Would be welcome change. Nerf the shit out of overperforming original gun and add muni sink to get original good gun back.
10 Mar 2017, 13:49 PM
#9
avatar of mondeogaming1

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do you think they will add it back?
10 Mar 2017, 13:50 PM
#10
avatar of mondeogaming1

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how about you make the start then?
yeah i will but the mod wont let me creat for some reason thats why i need help
10 Mar 2017, 14:02 PM
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10 Mar 2017, 14:36 PM
#12
avatar of mondeogaming1

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You may be running into this problem:

https://www.coh2.org/topic/59135/mod-builder-saving-to-coh2-alpha-folder
its where it needs to put some info where the mod is and if i have the right stuff
10 Mar 2017, 18:12 PM
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avatar of Angrade (Ægion)
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There is an M4A3 76(W) unit in the games files using the same model as the EZ8, however there is no upgrade and I don't believe we can make one because the game doesn't allow editing a model currently.


Actually, they are different models. One has a mussel break and the other does not.
11 Mar 2017, 00:58 AM
#14
avatar of Tiger Baron

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Actually, they are different models. One has a mussel break and the other does not.


Oh, thanks for that.

I only actually only made it buildable once and used it for like, 5 minutes.

Didn't really have the time to look over it that much.
11 Mar 2017, 09:30 AM
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Oh, thanks for that.

I only actually only made it buildable once and used it for like, 5 minutes.

Didn't really have the time to look over it that much.


The soviet m4c is the 76mm version. This one can be seen a bit more.
11 Mar 2017, 11:33 AM
#16
avatar of mondeogaming1

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The soviet m4c is the 76mm version. This one can be seen a bit more.
yeah i hope they give it non commander to USF
nee
11 Mar 2017, 12:10 PM
#17
avatar of nee

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If you add in 76mm vanilla Sherman it defeats the purpose of a DLC commander's unique call in vehicle; I also recall that medium tanks are not in the scope of the WBP mod.
11 Mar 2017, 12:17 PM
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avatar of Tiger Baron

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jump backJump back to quoted post11 Mar 2017, 12:10 PMnee
If you add in 76mm vanilla Sherman it defeats the purpose of a DLC commander's unique call in vehicle; I also recall that medium tanks are not in the scope of the WBP mod.


It would be a bigger problem for the an upgrade for the Soviets T-34, since more commanders have the 85 than the USF have the EZ8.

But still, if the USF get an upgrade for the 76mm gun like in CoH, the EZ8 could just remain a better version of the Sherman that can be called in in groups again or something.

The USF would still have a more beefed up Sherman, capable of semi-taking on the Panther, and have the better at taking out Armor Jackson.

I really wish to see a Jumbo in the game one day tho.

The USF just does not have enough meatshields, not that the UKF and Soviets do, but at least the Churchill and KV1 SORT OF fill that role, they're underperforming but it's better than nothing.
11 Mar 2017, 13:05 PM
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How do you imagine this 76mm sherman upgrade would work anyway? Would it change sherman 75mm to soviet m4c version with all statistics? So all sherman 75mm already on the battlefield wouldn't be or would be changed?

Wouldn't it be better to add a new unit? Make it a call in tank from T0 after getting all tech (maybe even make possible to call 2 sherman at once - like in vcoh1 as panzer elite could call 2 panthers). In that case it would be harder to get that E8s (so commander should be still worth getting)

As A.Soldier meansioned i really want to see JUMBO. USF doesn't have any vehicule which could soak a damage.
11 Mar 2017, 13:22 PM
#20
avatar of mondeogaming1

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jump backJump back to quoted post11 Mar 2017, 13:05 PMStark
How do you imagine this 76mm sherman upgrade would work anyway? Would it change sherman 75mm to soviet m4c version with all statistics? So all sherman 75mm already on the battlefield wouldn't be or would be changed?

Wouldn't it be better to add a new unit? Make it a call in tank from T0 after getting all tech (maybe even make possible to call 2 sherman at once - like in vcoh1 as panzer elite could call 2 panthers). In that case it would be harder to get that E8s (so commander should be still worth getting)

As A.Soldier meansioned i really want to see JUMBO. USF doesn't have any vehicule which could soak a damage.
it would be better be like the upgrade at coh1 but in my opinion to get the 76 mm gun upgrade you have to get all captains unclock all buildings and the soviet sherman the m4c is the exactly the same and as a name and as a tank jsut with 76 mm gun
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