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Can we make Relic add to USF the shermah 76 mm gun

31 Mar 2017, 15:55 PM
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First of all shermans penetration is 140 and they buffed it from 120 pen to 140 second the 76mm gun itso ne round is good vs infrantry exremly good vs medium tanks and its reload time its crazy can kill an OKW panzer iv with half health


You're right about the pen being max 140. My bad, but that's still more than sufficient to deal with p4s considering how shit p4s are for their price. In your other posts you're stating the 76mm destroys p4s with ease. Indeed it does. So I don't understand why you would like this to be added non doctrinally. It would make USF once again imbalanced to the axis.
31 Mar 2017, 16:04 PM
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You're right about the pen being max 140. My bad, but that's still more than sufficient to deal with p4s considering how shit p4s are for their price. In your other posts you're stating the 76mm destroys p4s with ease. Indeed it does. So I don't understand why you would like this to be added non doctrinally. It would make USF once again imbalanced to the axis.
Not they wont cuz USF can only counter stugs and p4 tanks and the perhing for heavier so yeah
31 Mar 2017, 16:22 PM
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Jacksons outrange all axis tanks except JP4 JT and elephant IIRC. You won't see a JT or elephant in 1v1 either. Jackson are micro intensive but if your skill is up there you can keep your jacksons away from axis tanks and chipping at them. Especially against heavies.
31 Mar 2017, 16:24 PM
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Jacksons outrange all axis tanks except JP4 JT and elephant IIRC. You won't see a JT or elephant in 1v1 either. Jackson are micro intensive but if your skill is up there you can keep your jacksons away from axis tanks and chipping at them. Especially against heavies.
Yes but dont oyu think the sherman 76 mm gun will help USF a lot USF has no options like brits brits have all options like go defensive or mobility comet or churchil USF at least an upgrade
31 Mar 2017, 16:32 PM
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I think exactly what a previous poster has thought. The unit will either not be used or the 75mm sherman will not be used since they're in the same role. No, I don't believe it will help the USF a lot because it wouldn't fill a role not already filled by the USF armor. They already have a jack of all trades tank. USF is a naturally aggressive faction, so playing defensive with them is just against faction design and proves difficult.
31 Mar 2017, 16:35 PM
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I think exactly what a previous poster has thought. The unit will either not be used or the 75mm sherman will not be used since they're in the same role. No, I don't believe it will help the USF a lot because it wouldn't fill a role not already filled by the USF armor. They already have a jack of all trades tank. USF is a naturally aggressive faction, so playing defensive with them is just against faction design and proves difficult.
what USF aggresive they are and for attackiong and for defending soviets are aggresive faction thats why they have such powerful tanks and take hit after hit and after hit and USF sherman 76 mm gun not only it will kil p4 100% but it will have a lot more chances penetration panthers front armor from mid and nnear range
31 Mar 2017, 16:52 PM
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USF are aggressive because their infantry moving accuracy debuff is not that significant and BARs work well on the move plus rifles are mid-close range effective. Yes the 76mm can deal with a p4, but that doesn't justify it being added non doctrinally. If that were the case OKW and Ostheer would have no chance using standard P4s and be forced into tank destroyers as their first tank. Limiting their AI capabilities to infantry and indirect.
31 Mar 2017, 17:02 PM
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USF are aggressive because their infantry moving accuracy debuff is not that significant and BARs work well on the move plus rifles are mid-close range effective. Yes the 76mm can deal with a p4, but that doesn't justify it being added non doctrinally. If that were the case OKW and Ostheer would have no chance using standard P4s and be forced into tank destroyers as their first tank. Limiting their AI capabilities to infantry and indirect.
thats why germans have panthers and p4 is for infrantry cuz p4 has more HE sheels so yeah wanna me and you make a mod that we will only add the 76 m mgun upgrade NOTHING else to be fair and ballance
31 Mar 2017, 17:09 PM
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P4 isn't intended for infantry only. It's AI power is less than HE sherman, t34 series and cromwell prior to upgrade and still less than the HE sherman after. OKW doesn't have a designated AI medium non doc unit which is an issue they suffer from lategame. Ostheer has the flakpanzer which is its AI medium. Panther is to expensive for OKW currently because of callin meta and the Ostheer panther is a joke in itself.
31 Mar 2017, 17:13 PM
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P4 isn't intended for infantry only. It's AI power is less than HE sherman, t34 series and cromwell prior to upgrade and still less than the HE sherman after. OKW doesn't have a designated AI medium non doc unit which is an issue they suffer from lategame. Ostheer has the flakpanzer which is its AI medium. Panther is to expensive for OKW currently because of callin meta and the Ostheer panther is a joke in itself.
Regural sherman is slower than the sherman 76 mm gun and can crush better than even cromwell why dont you need a better sherman
31 Mar 2017, 17:15 PM
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I don't see what you're asking. USF AI power is more than sufficient currently. Giving them a stronger unit would just make them unbalanced.
31 Mar 2017, 17:19 PM
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I don't see what you're asking. USF AI power is more than sufficient currently. Giving them a stronger unit would just make them unbalanced.
no brits are unballance spamming comets and infrantry section heavy cover. And riflemen lose vs nfrantry section at heavy cover and cromwell beats sherman and brits have better AT and better enginnerrs so think before you talk.
31 Mar 2017, 17:22 PM
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If you want to start insulting people you're more than welcome to but please backup your comments with some facts. IS are not meant to trade equal with Rifles because the allies are not balanced to fight each other. That's a custom game feature the game is not balanced around. Brits are OP currently, that doesn't mean buff all allies to OP state like brits. Brits were barely touched in the recent patch due to scope and will be addressed probably in the next patch.
31 Mar 2017, 17:24 PM
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So yeah if you even add one thing the whole faction changes cuz sherman 76 mm gun Overwelms OKW p4 and kills it in half health and Weh p4 its breakfast in front of its reload time and more chances of penetration cuz of the lack of armor skirts and british forces have to go two ways defensive and mobility USF nothing riflemen riflemen zooks zooks


So you want it to easily kill two very expensive tanks? No, thank you very much, not like this...
31 Mar 2017, 17:31 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Mar 2017, 17:24 PMGarrett


So you want it to easily kill two very expensive tanks? No, thank you very much, not like this...
OK yeah let british spam cromwells and comets and cromwell is 10 times betteer than the standar sherman well axis fans of course dont want another USF buff
31 Mar 2017, 17:33 PM
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If you want to start insulting people you're more than welcome to but please backup your comments with some facts. IS are not meant to trade equal with Rifles because the allies are not balanced to fight each other. That's a custom game feature the game is not balanced around. Brits are OP currently, that doesn't mean buff all allies to OP state like brits. Brits were barely touched in the recent patch due to scope and will be addressed probably in the next patch.
Yeah thats wwhat i am saying soviets now are well ballance brits are OP as fuck and USF is underpowed as fuck at least let them have the best medium tank
31 Mar 2017, 17:33 PM
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OK yeah let british spam cromwells and comets and cromwell is 10 times betteer than the standar sherman well axis fans of course dont want another USF buff


What the hell are you on about? Because Brits are overperforming, USF have to be buffed to OP level like Cromwells and Comets? This will legitimately improve the balance of the game kappa
31 Mar 2017, 17:36 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Mar 2017, 17:33 PMGarrett


What the hell are you on about? Because Brits are overperforming, USF have to be buffed to OP level like Cromwells and Comets? This will legitimately improve the balance of the game kappa
i am jut saying that at least shermans deserv to be better than cromwells cuz british have comets
31 Mar 2017, 17:36 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post31 Mar 2017, 17:33 PMGarrett


What the hell are you on about? Because Brits are overperforming, USF have to be buffed to OP level like Cromwells and Comets? This will legitimately improve the balance of the game kappa
and ok USF has the perhing but perhing is only one for exable 5 comets vs 1 perhing
31 Mar 2017, 18:14 PM
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and ok USF has the perhing but perhing is only one for exable 5 comets vs 1 perhing


You make no sense. You only compare USF to UKF, a faction that they will never play against. You have to look at the balance within all 5 factions, especially in regard to the Germans, since they would face this new Sherman - not the Brits.
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