Relic Winter Balance Preview v1.5 Update

Jump back to quoted post13 Jan 2017, 20:03 PMempyriumm

OKW need disposable smoke by default or doktrinal like other armies. You cant pass through blendkorpher and it arrives too late...

Jump back to quoted post13 Jan 2017, 20:05 PMBartonPL

instead of having 2 mseparate upgrades for molotovs and AT nades, why not merge it into one? wouldnt that be easier?

Jump back to quoted post13 Jan 2017, 20:32 PMMr.Smith

That would be a very logical thing to do. Unfortunately, we have no way of justifying that such a change would be in-scope.

Jump back to quoted post13 Jan 2017, 20:32 PMMr.Smith

That would be a very logical thing to do. Unfortunately, we have no way of justifying that such a change would be in-scope.

Jump back to quoted post13 Jan 2017, 21:19 PMBartonPL

you need to justify it? okay no problem, molotov sucks and usually its no pooint in researching it and its also worth to netion that US has with one upgrade two abilites (nades and smoke) and Ostheer gets free faust with tech

Jump back to quoted post13 Jan 2017, 20:02 PMMr.Smith

If we go for the PTRS-flavoured Penals (especially the ones you've been seeing for 1.3-1.5), their PTRS will not bet gated behind the AT grenade upgrade. This is because:
- AT Grenade upgrade is rather expensive
- PTRS Penals are already a downgrade for most part, compared to guards; we don't want to make them any worse than that.

However, from v1.6, and for a few versions, we will be trialing a PTRS-free version of Penals.

The reason locking flamers behind molotovs makes sense is so that you can't rush flamer + scout car and murder everything (without very little consequences). We'll see, though.

Jump back to quoted post13 Jan 2017, 21:51 PMGluhoman

Still waiting for molotov buff, still waiting

Jump back to quoted post13 Jan 2017, 22:02 PM__deleted__

Molotovs are actually really good if you use them against charging squads while you´re in cover. Just drop it in front of you cover and wait til they burn or have to fall back.


Also if you don´t charge with squads into no cover to throw them they are really good. For 15 munnition they counter garrisons and also squads in cover if you´re in mid range combat. Soviets also have oraaah. You have to use your conscripts together to help each other and molotovs are only there to counter, what conscripts alone cannot. They were never meant to be strong as other grenades. They were mean to be cheap garrison/green cover counter that is used in conjuction with oraah and other conscripts.

Jump back to quoted post13 Jan 2017, 22:02 PM__deleted__

Molotovs are actually really good if you use them against charging squads while you´re in cover. Just drop it in front of you cover and wait til they burn or have to fall back.


Also if you don´t charge with squads into no cover to throw them they are really good. For 15 munnition they counter garrisons and also squads in cover if you´re in mid range combat. Soviets also have oraaah. You have to use your conscripts together to help each other and molotovs are only there to counter, what conscripts alone cannot. They were never meant to be strong as other grenades. They were mean to be cheap garrison/green cover counter that is used in conjuction with oraah and other conscripts.

Jump back to quoted post13 Jan 2017, 22:02 PM__deleted__

Molotovs are actually really good if you use them against charging squads while you´re in cover. Just drop it in front of you cover and wait til they burn or have to fall back.


Also if you don´t charge with squads into no cover to throw them they are really good. For 15 munnition they counter garrisons and also squads in cover if you´re in mid range combat. Soviets also have oraaah. You have to use your conscripts together to help each other and molotovs are only there to counter, what conscripts alone cannot. They were never meant to be strong as other grenades. They were mean to be cheap garrison/green cover counter that is used in conjuction with oraah and other conscripts.