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which unit would you nerf then?
if they stay the same as in the live-version nothing changes except you replace penal/guard blob with guard/penal blob ...
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Penals of course, to the WBP 1.0 standard. Then everything changes. You can go shocks for example. You can go for any other doctrine that has no guards. It makes playing as and vs soviets much more interesting.
The problem here is not ballance, its that it needs a change in meta commanders. Relic probably won't allow this.
Sure, then what kind of penals? Live? WBP 1.0? WBP 1.0 with late game upgrade?
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Stop giving every tier a counter to ever phase of the game.
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i am a huge penal squad fan since coh2 release, and the 1.2 change with only 2 ptrs gave me nightmares. they are aggressive close range units, so i am really happy about the flamer ppsh package.
BUT: any chance to fix models, so the ppsh models always lead the squad into combat? seeing the ppsh behind svt rifle models is disgusting..
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I haven't had the chance to really playtest this; is this always the case? Don't the two types of models mix randomly, depending who died?
i.e., I don't think that the SVT/ppsh mixing is predetermined.
The only other option is make PPSh a slot items, which means you will get frustrating behaviour like Vet3 Tommies
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why 3 different weapons with different optimum ranges?
Flamer optimum range 20
SVT optimum range around 25(?)
Cons PPsh optimum range 10
Is it not possible to replace all SVT with PPsh?
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That way they become shocks that picked flamer without armour.
Way too much overlap and way too good for the price.
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The problem being?
PPsh are 2 type the one shock use with normal smg Curve and the Conscript one with higher DPS at range 10-15.
mixed weapon (ppsh /svt/flamer) Penal are actually more powerful since because they have more DPS at range 20 the optimum range for flamer...and making the unit behave inconstant since optimum range will change depending which model dies...
moving their optimum DPS to close (5) actually makes the unit better balanced...
I could claim the same about PTRs Penal and Guards...
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All mixed weapons do to penals is making them harder to use and thus more ballanced. But generally I'm not a fan of neither short range / flamer upgrade nor the PTRS upgrade.
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The only other option is make PPSh a slot items, which means you will get frustrating behaviour like Vet3 Tommies
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are you referring to the models just standing around like puppets with the gun flying around? also like the obers with stg44 upgrade after they die? issues which will never get fixed by lelic
btw: why did the ura ability get removed? i totally understand it on the ptrs penals, maybe even on flamer penals, but overall removed? thats crap..
to fix the AT issue with T1: why not simply add the 45mm at gun? its not strong and only effective vs light vehicles, i dont really see a problem..
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Penals have to be OP on individual basis otherwise T1 doesnt worth investment. - GG
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