The incredible jackson

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2016, 10:09 AMRiCE

Yes, thats why OKW kubel, Volks, Obers, JLi, LeIG, Panther, KT, and even the BaseTrucks have been nerfed. Because everything is OK...

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2016, 10:25 AMMissCommissar

I 100% don't agree with that "infantry reformation" of OKW, cos right now there is no logic in infantry system of OKW. For example, I don't need Fallshirms or Obers anymore, because 2 volks+STG performs in AI sooooo good + they have nade and faust and costs lesser. That was not really nerf... just ruining original logicaly clear construct in exchange of ol' good "competitive purpouses"...

I don't know how all other units were nerfed, they perform not really worse, than before, at least when I played as OKW (mostly play as them right now, thanks to LeFH) I didn't see anything really changed. Kubels still good in fast capturing and disrupting backpoints, LeIGs still good countering mortars, HMGs and other static things, Panther still destroy tanks, KT still dominates.

Btw, as I said originaly - Jackson with range + vision combination is fine, same as fine Panther with combination of armor+speed+gunpower. Even more - using Jackson is really way more risky, than Panthers, cos 1 wrong move or wrong pathfinding and you have pretty small chanses of saving Jackson. Panther with it's armor and speed may evade a lot of problems unharmed.

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2016, 10:09 AMRiCE

Yes, thats why OKW kubel, Volks, Obers, JLi, LeIG, Panther, KT, and even the BaseTrucks have been nerfed fixed. Because everything is OK...

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2016, 06:25 AMFiresparks

not only is the jackson flimsy, it's also a huge target. It's the easiest TD to kill if it's caught out of position.

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2016, 13:34 PMzerocoh

I have never seen so many wheraboo bullshit in 2 pages before, you guys are besting yourselves.

Jackson is the only thing USF have late game to defend against tanks since everything else either sucks or are too expensive to use.

And jacksons cost way too much compared to what axis get. For Cost-benefit comparisons (P4s are infantry wiping machines, panthers are invincible tanks).

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2016, 13:51 PMElSlayer

Just in case if you didn't noticed - 57mm AT gun was brought in line with other AT guns last patch. It is completely viable against any medium armor and quite decent (for its cost) against heavies with activated HVAP shells.

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2016, 14:10 PMzerocoh

so? It went from completely useless to borderline mediocre, great...

still useless in 90% of the cases since axis infantry will just shred the crew in seconds, or it will get one shotted by a PIV or tiger/kt.

Like a said previously, It is too expensive for it usefulness.

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2016, 14:14 PMStug life

perfect example of bias

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2016, 14:20 PMzerocoh

You sure showed me with all your facts and examples!

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2016, 14:24 PMStug life

the buffed usf at gun has more angle ,range with vet ability , more pen then other at gun with hvpr,
More rate of fire, more accuracy and is cheap + best vet
Pupchen is the most useless at gun with no green cover it get instant one shooted from the front

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2016, 14:10 PMzerocoh

so? It went from completely useless to borderline mediocre, great...

still useless in 90% of the cases since axis infantry will just shred the crew in seconds, or it will get one shotted by a PIV or tiger/kt.

Like a said previously, It is too expensive for it usefulness.

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2016, 14:28 PMzerocoh

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

now that is bias!

one shotted by what? cons with their drunk accuracy? Or rifles?

you need to get a really bad RNG roll to get one shotted by anything, get real.

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2016, 13:51 PMElSlayer

Just in case if you didn't noticed - 57mm AT gun was brought in line with other AT guns last patch. It is completely viable against any medium armor and quite decent (for its cost) against heavies with activated HVAP shells.

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Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2016, 14:37 PMStug life

.......m4 with normal round ...... They tend to clump up and got no cover so they insta die vs tank
Btw any at gun die to inf you know they are anti tank gun not anti everything gun

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2016, 15:12 PMAustralian Magic

Just asking... How is 150 penetration in line with 200 penetration?

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2016, 15:24 PMElSlayer

How about it costs 50MP less and fires faster and have an ability to increase its penetration?

That is quite enough to keep non-vetted Pz.IV at bay without use of ability.

Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2016, 15:16 PMzerocoh

Wow, are you serious? shermans?

look at how bad raketen is https://youtu.be/zTgJ9sjiG1M?t=20m2s

meanwhile the M1 just got wiped like nothing. This replay is a prime example of how silly USF is right now.

Now for the fabled "one shot" thing
https://youtu.be/9esZwwi3qds?t=24m17s

This game was full of really agressive raketen play, but yeah, keep saying they are useless your theorycrafting is amusing.