Any reason for it?

Soviet T34-76 Decent to good AI capabilties, struggles vs most medium armor it faces 80 fuel

Soviet T34-85 Decent AI capabilities, effective vs all Axis medium tanks it faces 130 fuel

USF M4A3 Sherman Very good AI capabilities, effective vs most Axis medium tanks it faces 110 fuel

UKF Cromwell Perfect AI capabilities, effective vs all Axis medium armor it faces 110 fuel

Ost Panzer IV Decent AI capabilities, struggles vs all medium armor it faces 125 fuel

Ah, some more cross-faction unit comparison out of faction context.

On topic:
How T-34-76 struggles with MOST medium armor
but
Pz.IV struggles with ALL?

Pz4 is mini-version of Tiger. Or vice-versa, btw - Pz4 is cool universal tank, I really like it, even for that price. It deals perfect with infantry, works not bad (actually) against mediums and in general - very solid tank. I like it way more, than T-34-76 or Sherman, cos again - it is universal.

And again - it is not bad against mediums. It has problems with medium-heavy (like Comet) and heavy tanks, but it's OK, for such purpouses Ostheer have... non-doc medium-heavy Panther.

Btw, only problem, that I see here is. Cromwell performs way better, than Pz4, it is same universal, but I guess it has better accuracy, speed and bigger armor (personal exp, not sure about it), but it still costs 15 fuel less, than Pz4. It might be because T3 teching for Ostheer is cheaper, than T3 for UKF, but Im too lazy for to calculate it.

I think, Cromwell should cost at least 120, and better - 130 fuel. It performs more like T-34-85, so - let it cost equial in fuel.

Ah, some more cross-faction unit comparison out of faction context.

On topic:
How T-34-76 struggles with MOST medium armor
but
Pz.IV struggles with ALL?

Ostheer Panzer IV can't 1v1 a t34-76 reliably, it can't 1v1 a cromwell reliably, it can't 1v1 a sherman reliably, it can't 1v1 a t34-85 reliably. Meanwhile, the t34-76 struggles hard vs the OKW Panzer IV, but can hold its own very well against the Ostheer Panzer IV. These are the only 2 medium armor pieces the t34-76 faces. So most medium armor.

Ostheer Panzer IV can't 1v1 a t34-76 reliably, it can't 1v1 a cromwell reliably, it can't 1v1 a sherman reliably, it can't 1v1 a t34-85 reliably. Meanwhile, the t34-76 struggles hard vs the OKW Panzer IV, but can hold its own very well against the Ostheer Panzer IV. These are the only 2 medium armor pieces the t34-76 faces. So most medium armor.

Get off acid dude.

P4 got advantage against every single stock med, because chances for allied meds to penetrate it is LOWER then the chance it gets to pen allied meds.

At vet2 it stomps over allied meds and is equal to 34/85.

P4 will win vs every default medium head-on due to higher armor unless you get really bad RNG, thus it is slightly more expensive.

It also wouldn't be very authentic if Germans could produce mediums as quick as the allies.

T-34/76 has worst AT of all, really high tech cost and doesn't perform as well against infantry as you think it does.

T-34/85 also has high teching cost, its worse against infantry than P4 and struggles becouse of no-ability design. It's ram is useless becouse its too costly and capturing points is not usefull for same reason. Would be great if it had smoke and/or pintle mg but it doesn't and is never going to have it.

stock sherman is a beast against infantry and has usefull smoke but the time it takes to change rounds is a huge disadvantage. Its usually not worth it to change during engagemen so you can either be good against infantry and bad against tanks or so so against both and you have to decide really early.

Cromwell was just nerfed, try it out before judging.

P4 has low pen, but universal rounds, great ver (armor), even better doctrine upgrades like smoke or abilities like blitz make it really potent. It is not as good as HE sherman against infantry but it is definitely the runner up. Against tanks it usually fights against its pen is enough, especially when you consider its own armour upgrade at vet2. It also has pintle mg that shreds planes and helps against infantry and super cheap stug in its tier as at when heavier armour arrives. It's teching cost is also pretty accessible.

Get off acid dude.

P4 got advantage against every single stock med, because chances for allied meds to penetrate it is LOWER then the chance it gets to pen allied meds.

At vet2 it stomps over allied meds and is equal to 34/85.

You're delusional...

The reason: Its just you
The reason 2: L2p issue
The Reason 3: You got 99 L2P issue but this one is just you.

The P4 is a exceptional medium tank that scales extremely well.

You're delusional...

Ban him when he hits 9999 posts pls

Consider the teching costs, Veterancy, abilities and the upgrades available to it

Wehrmacht also doesnt have any side tech unlike all the other factions

125 fuel Panzer IV is reasonable, so be it. But all of you goons can't address the blatent unbalanced pricing of the other mediums? 110 fuel Sherman and 110 fuel cromwell are fine?

Kek

You're delusional...

Rekt. How he can know that if he doesn't even play this game? Kappa

Get off acid dude.

P4 got advantage against every single stock med, because chances for allied meds to penetrate it is LOWER then the chance it gets to pen allied meds.

At vet2 it stomps over allied meds and is equal to 34/85.

So Ost Panzer IV will rape the Cromwell then lol? Ost Panzer IV will rape the T34-85 then? It loses to both of them flat out.

You're delusional...

Well, seeing some of your posts recently, I'd say you aspire to top me and you're on a good direction to do that.

But...



For simplicity, I'll use the mid range penetration(as this is the range where most shoot outs happen unless one jumped on others rear), which is:

T34: 100
Cromwell: 120
Sherman: 120
P4: 110

Now, on to armor:

T34: 150
Cromwell: 160
Sherman: 160
P4: 180

Reload:

T34: 6,1
Cromwell: 5,9
Sherman: 5,9
P4: 5,6

I don't think I even need to do math for T34, because its obvious its at disadvantage here, unless it attacks first and gets on rear armor, but for the sake of discussion, I'll include it:

P4 vs T34

T34 have 55% to pen and needs on average 9 shots to kill P4.
P4 have 73% chance to pen and on average needs 5 shots to kill T34.

Difference is rather obvious who is the regular winner here and by what margin.

Now:

P4 vs Cromwell

Cromwell have 66% to pen and needs on average 6 shots, average TTK being 29,5 seconds.
P4 have almost 69% to pen and needs on average 6 shots as well, except it fires slightly faster, needing only 28 secs to kill cromwell.

While its not really crushing, P4 have advantage here.

Same numbers apply for sherman.

Accuracy of the guns is the same, BUT sherman got slightly bigger target size so its slightly easier to hit, tipping RNG scales in the P4 favor another bit more.

Conclusion:

Ost P4 have the advantage over every single allied stock, as I've said(which to you is delusional).
vs T34 there is no contest, winner is clear.
vs cromwell and sherman, the RNG is involved, but the odds still favor P4(slightly more vs sherman if we include accuracy and target size), just as I've said.

Well, seeing some of your posts recently, I'd say you aspire to top me and you're on a good direction to do that.

But...



For simplicity, I'll use the mid range penetration(as this is the range where most shoot outs happen unless one jumped on others rear), which is:

T34: 100
Cromwell: 120
Sherman: 120
P4: 110

Now, on to armor:

T34: 150
Cromwell: 160
Sherman: 160
P4: 180

Reload:

T34: 6,1
Cromwell: 5,9
Sherman: 5,9
P4: 5,6

I don't think I even need to do math for T34, because its obvious its at disadvantage here, unless it attacks first and gets on rear armor, but for the sake of discussion, I'll include it:

P4 vs T34

T34 have 55% to pen and needs on average 9 shots to kill P4.
P4 have 73% chance to pen and on average needs 5 shots to kill T34.

Difference is rather obvious who is the regular winner here and by what margin.

Now:

P4 vs Cromwell

Cromwell have 66% to pen and needs on average 6 shots, average TTK being 29,5 seconds.
Pr have almost 69% to pen and needs on average 6 shots as well, except it fires slightly faster, needing only 28 secs to kill cromwell.

While its not really crushing, P4 have advantage here.

Same numbers apply for sherman.

Accuracy of the guns is the same, BUT sherman got slightly bigger target size so its slightly easier to hit.

Conclusion:

Ost P4 have the advantage over every single allied stock, as I've said(which to you is delusional).
vs T34 there is no contest, winner is clear.
vs cromwell and sherman, the RNG is involved, but the odds still favor P4(slightly more vs sherman if we include accuracy and target size), just as I've said.

Ah good, now I understand why my Panzer IV still loses 90% of the time vs a cromwell. Good to know!

Ah good, now I understand why my Panzer IV still loses 90% of the time vs a cromwell. Good to know!

Good that you've realized that its not stats that are bad, but you yourself.
Glad I could help to bring the real issue, so you can work on it

So Ost Panzer IV will rape the Cromwell then lol? Ost Panzer IV will rape the T34-85 then? It loses to both of them flat out.

Take into consideration the whole picture. P4 thanks to its abilities can easily escape soviet AT means, especially as zis has low rate of fire. T-34/85 can't escape no matter what. What's more, when you consider pak + p4 against zis + t-34/85 it's easy to predict wehrmacht wins this.

As for cromwell, it won't win against averagely microed p4 if both are vet2. Also, you have super cheap cromwell counter in same tier as p4.

Good that you've realized that its not stats that are bad, but you yourself.
Glad I could help to bring the real issue, so you can work on it

haha, now go play the game

Playing numbers is fun huh. P4 is shit for the fuel cost and the OKW one even worse. Why no T34/85 in the numbers? And for the fuel cost the T34/76 is still just as good an all around tank as a P4 and at 80 fuel its a bargain.