I don't like stun point and click abilities. I think their existance makes game worse.
If they want to keep stun, IMO they should make it much shorter - just enough to reduce speed of enemy tank to 0 and force it to start acceleration all over again.
Firefly Tulip Stun
24 Jun 2016, 11:57 AM
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24 Jun 2016, 12:04 PM
#22
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I don't like stun point and click abilities. I think their existance makes game worse.
If they want to keep stun, IMO they should make it much shorter - just enough to reduce speed of enemy tank to 0 and force it to start acceleration all over again.
Umm, you remember that PaK40 is point and click and FF is a skillshot which lasts much shorter, right?
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
24 Jun 2016, 12:17 PM
#23
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Pak40 with it bs stun says hello.
Firefly still count on tulip to kill.
Firefly still count on tulip to kill.
24 Jun 2016, 12:19 PM
#24
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Umm, you remember that PaK40 is point and click and FF is a skillshot which lasts much shorter, right?
I think it is fine for PaK40.
It is quite fragile and have low mobility after all.
Also PaK40 TWP is not actually a point and click ability as it don't bypass weapon cooldown.
24 Jun 2016, 12:29 PM
#25
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I think it is fine for PaK40.
It is quite fragile and have low mobility after all.
Also PaK40 TWP is not actually a point and click ability as it don't bypass weapon cooldown.
That ability has been bugged for ages, it resets the deployment on the pak and may not fire if it doesnt automatically re-adquire its target, and it fails to do so half the time, effectively wasting ammo.
It should be a load type ability, like the mg inc rounds, triggering a reload animation and causing the effect on the next shot, not limited by time.
24 Jun 2016, 12:50 PM
#26
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the point is dat is not 2.5 sec, its more
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24 Jun 2016, 12:51 PM
#27
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the point is dat is not 2.5 sec
Then this thread should be in bug section instead of balance as patch notes say 2.5 sec stun and 8 sec blind.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
24 Jun 2016, 12:53 PM
#28
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its because there are 2 rocket is like 4 sec
Then this thread should be in bug section instead of balance as patch notes say 2.5 sec stun and 8 sec blind.
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24 Jun 2016, 12:57 PM
#29
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its because there are 2 rocket is like 4 sec
As long as its 2,5 sec from 2nd hit, everything is fine.
Its a skillshot after all, not fire&forget PaK40 ability.
If you feel like there is FF somewhere, scout with inf or don't stop moving. Simply as that.
Again, its not guaranteed hit&pen of PaK40 stunshot.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
24 Jun 2016, 13:04 PM
#30
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it still stun
As long as its 2,5 sec from 2nd hit, everything is fine.
Its a skillshot after all, not fire&forget PaK40 ability.
If you feel like there is FF somewhere, scout with inf or don't stop moving. Simply as that.
Again, its not guaranteed hit&pen of PaK40 stunshot.
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24 Jun 2016, 13:07 PM
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If they are to keep stun, I would change it so that only one rocket applies the stun (preferably the second). Otherwise, if you get stunned by the first rocket, you can't move, and you will also eat the 2nd rocket in the face. The counterplay is that if your tank is fast enough, you can maybe dodge the 2nd (stunning) rocket.
Otherwise, we could nerf the stun the same way Relic nerfed Stug TWP.
Otherwise, we could nerf the stun the same way Relic nerfed Stug TWP.
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24 Jun 2016, 14:08 PM
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If they are to keep stun, I would change it so that only one rocket applies the stun (preferably the second). Otherwise, if you get stunned by the first rocket, you can't move, and you will also eat the 2nd rocket in the face. The counterplay is that if your tank is fast enough, you can maybe dodge the 2nd (stunning) rocket.
Otherwise, we could nerf the stun the same way Relic nerfed Stug TWP.
OR!.... Apply stun only if you got hit by BOTH rockets!
24 Jun 2016, 14:26 PM
#33
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OR!.... Apply stun only if you got hit by BOTH rockets!
That would be, by far, the best option, imo.
They could just copy-paste the ideas they used for the AEC tread shot (that part of the ability works just fine, without bugs).
However, given the not-so-recent downsizing at Relic, I think it's advisable to keep ideas as simple as possible.
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24 Jun 2016, 14:47 PM
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Remove stun abilities from TA and Stugs, give to Firefly. Seems about relic-ee enough to me.
24 Jun 2016, 15:06 PM
#35
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It stuns 2 seconds, but the "blind" effect doesnt disables the turret, in fact you just get 0 LoS, but you still can shoot to the enemy tanks, easier ifyou dont send them alone
24 Jun 2016, 16:28 PM
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If Pak40 is fine, but Guards' button wasnt?
24 Jun 2016, 17:18 PM
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People complaining about the Tulips. Where are the threads about Stug-E having TWP (disabling weapons for 15s IIRC).
PD: is the Stug-e also using the same version of the Stug-G with a prefix penetration value ?
PD2: make only the 2nd rocket stun for 3.0s instead of both ?
PD: is the Stug-e also using the same version of the Stug-G with a prefix penetration value ?
PD2: make only the 2nd rocket stun for 3.0s instead of both ?
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
24 Jun 2016, 17:27 PM
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PD: is the Stug-e also using the same version of the Stug-G with a prefix penetration value ?
Of course.
Stug-E. Normal (HE) shell:
- Damage: 80
- Penetration: 50
Stug-E TWP:
- Damage: 160
- Penetration: 280-ish
Seems legit.
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24 Jun 2016, 17:47 PM
#39
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lel lelic,remove stun from stug and give it to firefly and reduce its reload time,lol...like brits seems to not have enough features and buffs already that canadian bias...brits get everything and best version of that too
24 Jun 2016, 18:24 PM
#40
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You do understand that it is a skillshot ability ??? U can not even shot it out fast enough when you get flanked by anything faster than KT.
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