"Infantry crushing was always meant to be a flavor mechanic. We found this mechanic used much too often to counter Infantry. We are limiting Infantry Crushing to Tanks that have Heavy Crush Capability only.
• Only Heavy Crush vehicles can crush infantry"
No more medium tank crush then?
I suppose now you can use infantry to block a 50-ton tank advance?
or they will just clip through/fly over like Space Marines or 4th dimensional humans?
Seriously, why on earth would they remove crushing on infantry?
Damn, using mines and snare is too freaking hard for people now?
Human Tank Trap?
18 May 2016, 21:28 PM
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18 May 2016, 21:31 PM
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Neither, they move out of the way.
18 May 2016, 22:01 PM
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Just how light vehicles aren't blocked by infantry models, medium tanks won't be either.
18 May 2016, 22:02 PM
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They do like with vehicles which don't have crush, you silly, phase through like "4th dimensional humans." People will learn to not try crushing with mediums.
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18 May 2016, 22:39 PM
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God forbid expensive tech-wise tanks to kill infantry and punish greedy play.
Bloobers rejoice.
What's next, removal of cover?
Bloobers rejoice.
What's next, removal of cover?
18 May 2016, 22:57 PM
#6
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Keep in mind this is only experimental.
I suggest they nerf crushing on M10 Wolverine and Cromwell since imo both have OP chrushing, rest is fine.
I suggest they nerf crushing on M10 Wolverine and Cromwell since imo both have OP chrushing, rest is fine.
The only reason COH2 is still around, is because it's preserved by salt.
18 May 2016, 23:02 PM
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God forbid expensive tech-wise tanks to kill infantry and punish greedy play.
Bloobers rejoice.
What's next, removal of cover?
It's just as likely to crush a lone squad in 3 seconds. If crushing is required to counter blobs there are more serious problems with the game.
I like 95% of the changes in the Balance Preview, and this one is in top 3 for me. A step away from semi-arcade gameplay mechanics.
18 May 2016, 23:10 PM
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Just how light vehicles aren't blocked by infantry models, medium tanks won't be either.
What about pinned infantry or the one using "hit the ground"? I think they block light vehicles.
19 May 2016, 00:55 AM
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Although I love tank crush more than anything else, these changes are necessary for balance. It keeps the M10 tank destroyer a TANK DESTROYER and brings cromwell into a more balanced spot.
19 May 2016, 01:03 AM
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Although I love tank crush more than anything else, these changes are necessary for balance. It keeps the M10 tank destroyer a TANK DESTROYER and brings cromwell into a more balanced spot.
I've not played the balance mod, but it seems likely that Brit anti-blob tools will need a look. (Either that or Cromwell has become a crutch for me, lol.)
19 May 2016, 01:52 AM
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No more Cromwell / M10 / T34 / P4 crush?
Crush only when on KV2 / IS2 / Tiger / KT ? Sure they are fast enough.
Dev please, switch on your brains.
Crush only when on KV2 / IS2 / Tiger / KT ? Sure they are fast enough.
Dev please, switch on your brains.
19 May 2016, 01:56 AM
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I've not played the balance mod, but it seems likely that Brit anti-blob tools will need a look. (Either that or Cromwell has become a crutch for me, lol.)
I agree that brit needs more anti blob tools. Just remember though that volks blobs will no longer have shrecks to the Centaur will be seen a lot more
19 May 2016, 04:39 AM
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No more Cromwell / M10 / T34 / P4 crush?
Crush only when on KV2 / IS2 / Tiger / KT ? Sure they are fast enough.
Dev please, switch on your brains.
So only Panther/Pershing crush now but still nobody complains crush OP, it is in meta since vCOH so why change?
19 May 2016, 05:42 AM
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I agree that brit needs more anti blob tools. Just remember though that volks blobs will no longer have shrecks to the Centaur will be seen a lot more
Because it can't be simply disabled with a panzerfaust and then quickly dealt with a sneaky raketen.
19 May 2016, 06:18 AM
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That is honestly a huge nerf to the Cromwell.
I usually did about 80% of the kills with stupid crushing and only 20% with the main gun and MG.
Solid change.
I usually did about 80% of the kills with stupid crushing and only 20% with the main gun and MG.
Solid change.
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19 May 2016, 07:16 AM
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It's just as likely to crush a lone squad in 3 seconds. If crushing is required to counter blobs there are more serious problems with the game.
We used to have much more, but everyone is bitching until the nerf comes for HMGs or indirect fire blob punishers.
I'm actually quite amazed that demos weren't yet whined out of the game completely.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
19 May 2016, 09:06 AM
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Keep in mind this is only experimental.
I suggest they nerf crushing on M10 Wolverine and Cromwell since imo both have OP chrushing, rest is fine.
How do you nerf this? Speed reduction maybe? This would affect (nerf) the units even more.
No more Cromwell / M10 / T34 / P4 crush?
Crush only when on KV2 / IS2 / Tiger / KT ? Sure they are fast enough.
Dev please, switch on your brains.
You have a good point. What will they remove next? The tank tread and put tyres on them?
I hope that this change will not get in the game.
19 May 2016, 10:46 AM
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Keep in mind this is only experimental.
I suggest they nerf crushing on M10 Wolverine and Cromwell since imo both have OP chrushing, rest is fine.
Damn.
Using Mines and Snare is too difficult I guess
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19 May 2016, 10:49 AM
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They do like with vehicles which don't have crush, you silly, phase through like "4th dimensional humans." People will learn to not try crushing with mediums.
You have no intelligence for detecting sarcasm isn't it?
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19 May 2016, 14:06 PM
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Damn.
Using Mines and Snare is too difficult I guess
Crush on M10 and Cromwell is just ridicules... And probably the only reason why they put this change in the mod.
The only reason COH2 is still around, is because it's preserved by salt.
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