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Isn't it basically enforcing natural blobbing at core design?
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Interesting idea.
From the "lore" point if view it is certainly right that a penal unit should be somewhat different than ordinary combat units, be it line or elite ones.
I like this feature of the german breakthrough officer which causes all his units to retreat when he goes down. I would suggest to progress the OPs idea in this direction somehow.
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Give them ability that spawns AT dog with mine attached to its back. The dog runs under the closest vehicle, no matter if friend or foe, and detonates the mine damaging its engine
Seriously though, problem with ideas in this thread is that you guys forget penals should not only be 'special' but also usefull, otherwise nobody will use them.
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or use children instead of dogs... hm?
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honestly when you have guards, shocks and conscripts with optional ppsh
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Please focus REALLY hard on the bold words.
What do these have in common together and what puts penals aside next to them?
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Another idea to make penal units somewhat special would be to increace their received-accurracy value above average to simulate their tendency of being used ruthlessly.
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Actually soviets never really needed penals. People were always crying about it, but honestly when you have guards, shocks and conscripts with optional ppsh, no matter where you put penals, they will be either OP or never seen in any meta.
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Don't think so. A capable non-doctrinal infantry unit with a weapon upgrade for soviets will actually make all commanders without infantry call-in or ppsh upgrade much more interesting. This could change the soviet commander meta quite a bit and pave the way for new tactics.
Shocks without flamer and satel charge but with smoke grenade, strong close up grenade and armor 2 are still a whole different approach, I wouldn't say they are too similar, but made for a different playing style.
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I will simply lol at anyone expecting such a change to a 2 year old general use infantry.
Equally possible are pershing for USF, IS-3 for soviets or ober nerf for OKW.
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Penals a little bit too strong, they beat lmg grens at long range.
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Penals a little bit too strong, they beat lmg grens at long range.
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